Obama = Fail

[Anime Daisuki]

Obama's Presidency is getting synonymous with the word "Fail" rather than "Change".

In this year alone
- Not only did he fail to tackle the spiraling budget deficit, he added to it by expanding defense spending and now, the Bush tax cuts; that's spending 900 billion more future money. Good job Obama.

- Failed to get any headway with Iran. TICK TICK TICK...

- Failed to get anywhere in Afghanistan. Continues to call Karzai a partner despite wikileak cables describing him as an utterly corrupt and ineffective puppet who has lost the faith of his people;

- Failed to work with China. Instead, positively ramped up the pressure all over Asia by shifting from an "engagement" policy to a "containment" policy. Sino-US relations is now in its lowest point since 1999.

- Failed to create a fresh start with Russia. Utter failure with regards to the START treaty and allying Russian suspicion about NATO expansion and new US bases in former soviet republics;

As the economy sputters, he continues to spend money like its nobody's business, increasing American commitments all over the world instead of reducing those commitments.

What a disappointment.

[Consortina]

US gets what US deserves.

Forty years from now, one will look at Bill Clinton as the lone capable and sane president in a long line of daydreamers, disappointments and lunatics.

[Anime Daisuki]

Clinton is no hero of mine.

It was he who pushed for the misguided policy to expand NATO. As a result of that, US-Russia relations changed drastically from the buddy buddy atmosphere during the Yeltsin era back to an antagonistic one. Does creating new US bases in Latvia, Estonia, etc. make them safer? Doubt it. Are nations like France and Germany willing to go to war (per NATO obligations) against Russia over those countries? Doubt it. Does turning Soviet Union's former republics against Russia create unnecessary tensions? You bet.

Not to mention the wars during his presidency, the increase in military spending towards the end, and the mistakes when it comes to fighting terrorism.

[Cerb]

Obama = fail may or may not be harsh. I think though it's best to wait until the next two years are up. I know that many democrats and independants expected great things from him which he has not been able to deliver.

I think the more conservative folks are getting what they expected. If there has been a failure, I would call it the 100% reluctance of either side of the house to work together.

Some point to the health care reform act as a compromise bill, but the majority of Americans were still unhappy with the way it was passed and it's incomprehensible contents. The most bipartisanship that has been witnessed on the hill has come in the last day where a compromise on unemployment payments were merged with the tax cut extension.

It's taken the knowledge of a house out of his control that has forced this, and I swear he's going to be more bipartisan so that come 2012, he can hope to point and say "look, I worked with both sides!".

I felt I knew the man before he was elected, and I feel that my judgment was pretty close to the mark.

[Kurdazistan]

You are damned if you do and damned if you do not.

I live in the Capital of Florida, where EVERYONE is a political expert.

[Guy]

We've had... What... Five of those threads so far? We get it, you don't like the guy.

[Globexanter]

If you dont like him, move away...

[Estayland]

Excuse me? If you don't like him, vote him and those like him out! Where the heck do you get this "move away" garbage?

[Globexanter]

I normaly get it from the bins outside my house .

[Anime Daisuki]

Dec 7, 2010 23:16:56 GMT -5 Guy said:

We've had... What... Five of those threads so far? We get it, you don't like the guy.

Actually, I was one of his supporters in 2008, and have not started any threads that directly attacked Obama until now. But like Cerb said, he's been a disappointment to democrats and to independents a like.

[Globexanter]

Reminds me of a well known phrase which should've been used before he was voted in:

The Cake Is A Lie

( For those who do not know, that means that your hopes are took to a sky-high amount, then dropped later down to nil. )

[Guy]

The budget deficit is not anything anyone is going to tackle in the current political environment. You would either need an elimination of the filibuster (assuming one party controls both houses) or huge supermajorities.

What exactly do you expect Obama to do with Afghanistan?

[Walabamba]

Just look at what he was elected into, it's not like he had a fresh start. People expect everything to be fixed right away and blame Obama. He's trying to fix things but clearly there are a lot of obstacles. I'll wait until his term is done and then I'll form a proper opinion and not scream "Obama sucks" while he's still in the process of fixing America.

[Risoid]

lets remember clinton also voted for NAFTA and GATT which caused short term wealth, but now has all our jobs overseas.

[Kurdazistan]

I supported/helped his campaign before he became the front-runner.

Afterwards, I went back to McCain. I was at a phone bank on the final week before voting for John..

[Shizensky]

Dec 8, 2010 12:36:55 GMT -5 Estayland said:

Excuse me? If you don't like him, vote him and those like him out! Where the heck do you get this "move away" garbage?

I swear I heard this "if you don't like it, move away" garbage on Faux News on more than once occasion during Bush's presidency.

Obama is like the lady a guy picks up at the bar. When he first meets her, he sees both what he wants to see, and what the "situation" leads him to see. People saw Obama and wanted to see an answer, and with the situation being as crappy at the time as it was, he was the answer.

And then America, drunk with poordom, and desperate to get them some, took Obama home.

Now America is kinda waking up. Our poorness has turned into one hell of a hang over. We're giving this new "relationship" a shot before we do the a-hole thing and tell the girl we'll "call her."

I told a guy at work that this very thing would happen. The country as a whole would get all excited over Obama. He'd be our savior in the post-Bush era. Expectations were so crazy high for him, and that's really his fault. He sold him self so well that he really only set himself up for failure. He said "this is going to be the best thing since forever," and if it's not truly the best thing since forever, it's a fail.

[Cerb]

Well, I can't blame the man for trying to sell himself as well as he could. I know my daughter was absolutely enraptured with him and I admit, when I first heard him speak I thought "that guy is going to win"

It is hardly surprising that he couldn't deliver much of what he promised in two years, and even less surprising that the honeymoon shattered after less than two years.

Americans are for the most part fashionable and fickle. In this instant gratification world which we live in there was little chance of him being an overwhelming success.
The economic downturn wasn't a couple of years in the making, and there was no way it would (or could) be fixed in that time.

The problem is that people thought he could, which was unrealistic at best.
Between him being unable to pull off a miracle, a democratic house hell bent on pushing through unpopular legislation, and a populace sick of war, who could be surprised?
Roll on 2012, I can't wait to see which clowns take the stage when the curtain goes up. Obama's best chance ofre-election come in the form of a cute soccer mom who's "goshdarnit dontcherknows" will split the conservative vote down the middle.

[Globexanter]

Oh well, only a few more years to go.

[granyys]

It's awfully hard to blame any President when the Congress (as a whole - members and structure) is so dysfunctional. I agree with Cerb that Obama's clearest path to victory in 2012 comes with a Palin victory in the Republican primaries, but I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss him against virtually any Republican opponent - the early polling from states like Michigan and Virginia shows that despite big Republican gains in the 2010 elections, Obama leads against all comers in 2012 matchups. Polls out this early are virtually useless in determining what will actually happen in 2012, but it is interesting that in an election that was supposedly another "Change" election the electorate still seems to be heading toward re-electing the man. I think the exit polling shows clearly that the 2010 electorate was far different from 2008 and the likely 2012 electorate. We shall see!

[Kurdazistan]

Barrack 'Barry' Hussein Obama is the president of the United States.

He had worked with both parties, regardless of public opinion. Respect his position, support the politicians you admire, and we will take back the Executive Branch in 2012.

[Bad Infinitum]

Dec 8, 2010 12:36:55 GMT -5 Estayland said:

Excuse me? If you don't like him, vote him and those like him out! Where the heck do you get this "move away" garbage?

Yeah, 'cause individual votes obviously work. Voting gets us in every situation, even this one.

Dec 12, 2010 19:28:17 GMT -5 Kurdazistan said:

Barrack 'Barry' Hussein Obama is the president of the United States.

I wish f**king people would give up this f**king "Hussein" shrubbery. I served with a Hussein who was, by far, one of the most honorable, dedicated, skilled soldiers I've ever known. Literally dragged me out of the line of fire when literally everyone else on the team was pinned down or just plan down. I would not hesitate for one second to take a bullet for that man. Shut the f**k up.

That said, Obama ain't perfect. f**k, no one could have done a better job than him with what he was given, though. It's like giving a pile of dog shit to a fourth grader and expecting a perfect rendition of Picasso's Guitar Man. You just don't have enough blue in dog shit to make it look pretty.

[Kurdazistan]

I just called him by his name Infnitum.

I took a class with a Hussein, she was hilarious. I do not necessarily agree with your second paragraph.

Colin Powell would of done a damn fine job, but he is a family man. McCain allowed the lunatic right-wing to control him too much. Karl Rove nailed McCain's political coffin with Bush Jr.

Anyways! I am glad you are NOT in Afghanistan. Your avatar looks like Laguna from FFVIII.

[Mutanatia]

Actually, Obama did not work with Republicans at first. When he was asked for compromise he said flatly (after the election), "Elections have compromise. I won."

[Kurdazistan]

Well we....*er* Obama turned around.

Obama loves the Republicans. Without the Republicans, Obama (who apparently has a middle name we are not supposed to utter) would not be able to pass key legislation..

Obama is lucky Karl Rove and Bush Jr. finished McCain back in 2000. I worked for Obama (before he won the primary), and afterwards worked for McCain..what about you guys?

[Mutanatia]

Yes, I know, but I was just pointing that out. After the next election, he pretty much reversed course

[Kurdazistan]

I think your comment calls for waffles!

I am going to flip them for every single time Obama has changed subject...so ah...I am probably going to die from exhaustion doing this.

But no Obama is the President..we have to support him...tis tricky/complex.

[amaniachelmetjohnp]

I certainly disagree with Obama with his policies, but I also have to say, give him a break. It's been a cruddy couple of years. That being said, I suspect, he'll win re-election.

[Kurdazistan]

So you want to give him a break and reelect him b/c it has been cruddy?

Fascinating.

[amaniachelmetjohnp]

Dec 20, 2010 11:42:56 GMT -5 Kurdazistan said:

So you want to give him a break and reelect him b/c it has been cruddy?

Fascinating.

No I didn't say I wanted to re-elect him, just pointing out facts. Whomever runs for the GOP nomination won't be that decent, maybe Romney could pull it off. But if Palin wins, Obama will. Not to mention he's taking a middle road lately which has made me happy.

[Magthere]

Has Obama really failed though? Take a look at his current count of campaign promises kept and not kept.

www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

With the stuff he has kept, compromised (half the value going to kept and the other half to broken) and the value of broken Obama's got 145/190 which equals 76% a C grade.

So he's chiefly been keeping his promises making it more of a case of Tim the Enchanter warning us about the Killer Rabbit, and many people not understanding the danger. Also one executive branch does not a government make.

This is the point where Obama would say I WARNED YOU, I WARNED YOU, BUT NO, IT'S JUST A CUT AN INNOCENT LITTLE RABBIT. As well as a case of having to work through the legislative.

That looks somewhat decent for halfway through his first term.

Anyway, we still have two more years and depending on how this congress behaves will have a major impact on Obama's odds of winning. The Republicans got annoyed with the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell, and have threatened to be even less helpful then before. The Dems still have the Senate and White House for at least two years. The Republicans can't just have their way yet. If they try, they'll have [expletive] any hopes for victory in 2012.