Military Tactics RP Help

[The Ilium]

Is there a difference between REDCON and DEFCON?

[Surdra]

DEFCON normally means nukes, REDCON is a unit's readiness

[Globexanter]

If that's about the post in the Kalaska thread with the Globexanterian readiness numbers being set at "2", this is explainable by the fact that Globexanterian Alert levels work the other way around, DEFCON sounded too Western for me.

[Mal]

Dec 9, 2011 0:11:59 GMT -5 Surdra said:

DEFCON normally means nukes, REDCON is a unit's readiness

To expand on that a bit, the U.S. is normally at Defense Condition 5, which means little or no imminent possibility of nuclear threat.

Ready Condition is used by a ship or shore unit, or other military formation to indicate it's readiness to "release," and begin executing it's manuevers in the effort to complete it's assigned objectives.

[Surdra]

Dec 9, 2011 6:15:07 GMT -5 Globexanter said:

If that's about the post in the Kalaska thread with the Globexanterian readiness numbers being set at "2", this is explainable by the fact that Globexanterian Alert levels work the other way around, DEFCON sounded too Western for me.

Somewhat yes but mostly its from the Robloxica thread.

And as far as I know every nation, while they call it something else, works the same way.

When I see some thing in a post about going from DEFCON 2 to 3, in my mind that means they are standing down not the otherway arould.

[Kannex]

I've known that for quite some time, but I think I messed it up once during the Robloxica thread.

This conversation, actually, reminds me of something I saw on TV.



Ahem, anyway, I'd like to know if it's possible for modern sonar to detect small vessels (i.e. fishing boats) or old wooden ships (esp. the ones used during the 18th and early 19th centuries). I'd also like to know the same for radar.

[The Ilium]

Radar difinitely could. And so could Sonar. I don't believe i'm mistaken here (because im usually not).

[Surdra]

As I'm sure you know sonar operates in two different modes, active and passive. In its active mode it could detect it, though not a strongly as a steel hull or larger vessels. In its passive mode it could but it would face several challenges. If the waters were calm enough they could hear the water flowing over the hull.

Radar however would have any trouble. The only thing that could give the radar trouble is if the waters where choppy enough, then again if the water was that choppy the vesel would have trouble even being out at sea.

[Globexanter]

Do submarines/ships have to be in a certain radar mode in order to launch Cruise missiles?

[Kannex]

Dec 9, 2011 16:19:16 GMT -5 Surdra said:

As I'm sure you know sonar operates in two different modes, active and passive...

I'm not in the military, Surdra.

[Surdra]

Dec 9, 2011 16:24:53 GMT -5 Globexanter said:

Do submarines/ships have to be in a certain radar mode in order to launch Cruise missiles?

They have to be a certain depth to fire, to deep and the missile would be crushed.

It depends on what type of missile they are firing. If they are firing a GPS guided missile they just have to be in range. Anti-ship missiles do require some sort of guidance from the Sub at first. This could be sonar or radar, they really just need to be able to point the missile in the right direction, then the missile takes over.

[Surdra]

Dec 9, 2011 16:29:15 GMT -5 Kannex said:

Dec 9, 2011 16:19:16 GMT -5 Surdra said:

As I'm sure you know sonar operates in two different modes, active and passive...

I'm not in the military, Surdra.

Really has nothing to do with being in the military or not, but my mistake.

[Robloxica]

What's the difference between invading and raiding?

[Globexanter]

Raiding usually mean you go in to an area, perform the objective of the raid, then leave (as the raid on Osama Bin Laden's complex).
An invasion means moving in masses of troops, and attempting to take control of the entire Nation, or at least occupy it (example of Iraq).

[Surdra]

Its also the scale of the attack. raids are normally small, 30-100 attackers, while invasions are large, in the numbers of 100,000s to millions.

[Mal]

Dec 9, 2011 16:19:16 GMT -5 Surdra said:

As I'm sure you know sonar operates in two different modes, active and passive. In its active mode it could detect it, though not a strongly as a steel hull or larger vessels. In its passive mode it could but it would face several challenges. If the waters were calm enough they could hear the water flowing over the hull.

Radar however would have any trouble. The only thing that could give the radar trouble is if the waters where choppy enough, then again if the water was that choppy the vesel would have trouble even being out at sea.

Sonar echoes can be tricky, to say the least. The Navy deployed a system in the 80s called Signal Algorithim Processing System. In essence, it's a computer designed to aid sonar operators in distinguishing between organic and non organic pings.

[Robloxica]

Which is more powerful?

A. Atomic bomb
B. Nuclear bomb
C. Hydrogen bomb

[The Ilium]

They're all the same thing.

[Globexanter]

A hydrogen bomb the Tsar Bomba to be more precise (this is only because nobody has made a bigger bomb of any type, it is possible to do so tho). But they all have their pros and their cons. You should look into them, learning it yourself might make you remember it better.

But they are, however, all classed as nuclear weapons, and work off the same principles.

[Kannex]

It's impractical to have a bomb as big as Tsar Bomba, because the aircraft is likely to get shot down before it reaches its target.

[Globexanter]

You could have it as a warhead

Also, is it possible to create a bomber which could travel at speeds of Mach 5, if you pumped enough money into research?

[Surdra]

We have scram jets that have reached mach 10, ram jets have reached mach 6+. Before you start creating a fleets of high speed bombers you should know that Mut has capped our top speed a mach 4 and that was for a recon plane, a bomber carrying a full load would be much slower, say about mach 2.5 tops.

[Globexanter]

I was more thinking a smaller nuclear load, like a few missiles, instead of a bomb bay ready for carpet bombing.
Since when has the cap been in place? Does it only affect aircraft?

[The Ilium]

How many cars or boats do you know of that go over Mach 4?

[Globexanter]

I was meaning in the terms of missiles, etc...

[Robloxica]

Is it really possible for a vehicle to reach like Mach 9 or something like that?

[Mal]

Dec 20, 2011 8:18:22 GMT -5 Robloxica said:

Is it really possible for a vehicle to reach like Mach 9 or something like that?

In theory it may be. The problem is designing a cockpit and flightsuit that will allow you to take the kinds of massive stress such speeds would inflict. The SR-71 flew at around Mach 2.5, and that was at 80,000 feet where the air is alot thinner and there is less force on the craft.

Moreover, unless a new alloy is developed, such a speed would most likely tear conventional ariframes apart.

On the question above about Atom and nuclear bombs, Atomic bombs are completely different from Hydrogen and thermonuclear devices.

An atom bomb like the ones dropped by the U.S. on Japan use fission as the primary explosive force, where energy is released by splitting an atom.

Hydrogen and thermonuclear devices use fusion whereby atoms are fused together to generate energy, which is much more powerful than fission.

[Death]

Someone knows his stuff!

[Mal]

Dec 20, 2011 12:38:03 GMT -5 @Death said:

Someone knows his stuff!

Thanks. I actually have a consulting firm here where I provide custom RP help in political and military affairs.

[Surdra]

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