One night Ultimate Werewolf

[Ater Nox]

@kozmix, do you have any comments about your role? Elite, I'm interested to hear how your robbery went.

(So far these people haven't posted yet, so in case they aren't aware:
Almonaster
Tanzoria
United Royal Islands
Benevolent Thomas
)

[Deleted]

Alright, after this whole humdrum, I am the seer and I have seen BT as a wolf. I am unaware of the trouble-maker's role in switching me up with Tuga, but as the seer, I have read BT to be a wolf.

[Lethoica]

I think the next step is waiting a couple hours to see what Benevolent Thomas has to say about all of this before we keep going. That being said if he doesn't post that would be pretty interesting.

[Dominion of Compassion]

Jan 3, 2018 14:28:23 GMT -5 @kozmix said:

Alright, after this whole humdrum, I am the seer and I have seen BT as a wolf. I am unaware of the trouble-maker's role in switching me up with Tuga, but as the seer, I have read BT to be a wolf.

And so if I switched him with Ater...

[Ater Nox]

I was lying about the troublemaking on my half to try and draw out some info, I am actually the drunk. @kozmix, as far as I know you actually are whatever you started as.

[Alkasia]

I'd like to hear what Elite has to say as the robber. What role was I? Or rather, what role are you now? This is useful information to know if you really are the robber.

[Tuga Nation's Dragon]

Jan 3, 2018 14:38:48 GMT -5 Ater Nox said:

I was lying about the troublemaking on my half to try and draw out some info, I am actually the drunk. @kozmix, as far as I know you actually are whatever you started as.

knowing you a bit by now paid off... I played along with you. I don't know who the tanner is btw, I just selected one role and played along...

Now, if @kozmix is really the seer, then he really did see BT as the Wolf... It simplifies things a lot, but I believe there is more to be discovered...

[Elite]

Well, that backfired. I am the doppelganger. I picked Kozmix to copy and also scanned BT. I thought we were playing a variant where the robber doesn't know which role they switched to, apparently that's not the case?

[Lethoica]

I have a couple things to say. First Elite I have no idea. Secondly I thought I did this earlier but I'm claiming the hunter. Just as a disclaimer unless I hear from him or anyone else changes my mind I'm inclined to vote to lynch bt. Next Tuga Nation's Dragon and Alkasia have posted but they have not claimed any roles yet. Lastly the same four people that Ater Nox tagged still haven't posted.

[Benevolent Thomas]

I started out as a wolf, but I no longer believe I am one if what I've read is correct.

[Lethoica]

Benevolent Thomas, wasn't that switch based off of Ater switching you?

[Benevolent Thomas]

I do not know. Multiple people have claimed the Troublemaker role, but I think Ater walked his claim back.

[Alkasia]

Jan 3, 2018 19:18:21 GMT -5 Elite said:

Well, that backfired. I am the doppelganger. I picked Kozmix to copy and also scanned BT. I thought we were playing a variant where the robber doesn't know which role they switched to, apparently that's not the case?

Since the robber takes on the win conditions of those they steal from, surely they'd have to know what they've stolen.

[Lethoica]

In any case we need to clear up who is the robber and trouble maker

[Dominion of Compassion]

Troublemaker here

[Alkasia]

Tuga Nation's Dragon: you now say you aren't tanner. If not, what role are you?

[Elite]

Jan 3, 2018 21:14:00 GMT -5 Alkasia said:

Jan 3, 2018 19:18:21 GMT -5 Elite said:

Well, that backfired. I am the doppelganger. I picked Kozmix to copy and also scanned BT. I thought we were playing a variant where the robber doesn't know which role they switched to, apparently that's not the case?

Since the robber takes on the win conditions of those they steal from, surely they'd have to know what they've stolen.

In the variant I usually play, no-one knows what role they have at the start. They have to lie and try to extract the truth from everyone else to try and figure out what role they have, before trying to win.

[Lethoica]

Jan 3, 2018 21:23:10 GMT -5 Alkasia said:

Tuga Nation's Dragon : you now say you aren't tanner. If not, what role are you?

I could ask you the same question

[Alkasia]

Also: I'm the robber. Elite's claim was obviously false from my perspective so I called him out on it immediately, but held off from claiming to see what defense he would give.

I switched with Lethoica and can confirm that he was the hunter, and is now the robber.

[Alkasia]

Jan 3, 2018 21:25:11 GMT -5 Elite said:

Jan 3, 2018 21:14:00 GMT -5 Alkasia said:

Since the robber takes on the win conditions of those they steal from, surely they'd have to know what they've stolen.

In the variant I usually play, no-one knows what role they have at the start. They have to lie and try to extract the truth from everyone else to try and figure out what role they have, before trying to win.

I know from the actual card game (at least the one I play), the robber switches their card with another player's, then looks at the card.

[Deleted]

Sauron, pls halp and clarify

[United Royal Islands]

I haven’t had much to add because I haven’t been switched with as far as I can tell. Not sure how much help I can be at night here anyways, given my role. I have been just sort of reading and combing through trying to get a sense of things.

[Dominion of Compassion]

Ater and BT were switched by me.

[Benevolent Thomas]

So Ater is a wolf then. I was scanned before the troublemaker switched the roles, according to the OP. Alkasia was the other wolf, which he makes obvious with his cheeky reply to Elite's claim that he was the robber and switched roles with him.

[Sauron]

Jan 3, 2018 21:59:41 GMT -5 @kozmix said:

Sauron, pls halp and clarify

What would you like clarifying?

[Benevolent Thomas]

I think they wish to confirm that players do not know what their roles are now that the night phase has passed.

[Sauron]

The only player for definite who knows their role is the insomniac. The robber switches before the troublemaker so although knows their new role has no way of knowing that by the end of that night they are still that role.

No one is informed if they have been switched. Hopefully that clarifies some things for you.

[Benevolent Thomas]

I believe that explanation will be sufficient, Sauron.

[Tuga Nation's Dragon]

I'm whatever Ater Nox claims to be...

[Ater Nox]

Jan 3, 2018 20:47:05 GMT -5 Benevolent Thomas said:

I started out as a wolf, but I no longer believe I am one if what I've read is correct.

Who was the other wolf? I was the drunk, which means whatever role was passed to me has ended up on the middle.