SC Proposal: Commend Crushing Our Enemies

[Lenlyvit]

Commend Crushing Our Enemies

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.

Category: Commendation

Nominee(nation): Crushing Our Enemies

Proposed By: Jakker City

The Security Council,

Acclaiming Crushing Our Enemies’ years of regional and cultural leadership within NationStates,

Affirming that while this nation may crush its enemies, it cherishes its regional partners,

Recognizing this nation’s 10+ years of influence on The Black Hawks (TBH) which included their roles as Head of Military, Head of Foreign Affairs, and Military Advisor, as well as developing the rank and promotion system that TBH uses and has also since been adopted by many other regional militaries,

Complementing that Crushing Our Enemies played a vital role in the foreign policy practices and regional responses of The Black Hawks' Council including the aftermath of the military weapon, Predator, being found to be against international law,

Noting Crushing Our Enemies’ induction into the Raiding Hall of Fame for their integrity and leadership,

Summarizing that when given the ability to conquer other regions, this practice can attract nations who selfishly commit acts which negatively impact regional partners, and Crushing Our Enemies helped to develop a culture of professionalism and responsibility to mitigate this within The Black Hawks,

Acknowledging that the nominee also controls General COE of The North Pacific; the largest region in NationStates,

Impressed with General COE’s years of dedication to the security of The North Pacific through their involvement in the region’s Security Council; both as a member and as the Vice-Delegate which oversees the council,

Declaring General COE as a leading author of legislative and constitutional reform proposals which has served to ensure that regional practices have remained updated over the years,

Appreciating their efforts of developing physical copies of the region’s constitution and delivering these documents to fellow nations,

Applauding General COE’s efforts in modernizing the operations and media production of the region’s Speakers Office through their role as Minister of Communications, as well as the regional newsletter, The Northern Light, as the first Executive Editor,

Further applauding their commitment to justice and democracy within the North Pacific through multiple terms as Attorney General and Justice of the Court,

Admiring that during times in which The North Pacific has faced zombie epidemics, General COE has been a leader in developing the regional strategic responses and organizing the distribution of cures to other nations,

Observing General COE as the creator of the Election Commission within The North Pacific and has designed many governmental awards, badges, mottos, and seals for the purposes of representation and as incentives to other nations within the region,

Applauding the musical contributions to NationStates that has come from Crushing Our Enemies including the songs, Moves Like Jakker and Grey Wardens Boogie,

Highlighting that the nominee’s musical productions have been submitted in several global song contests and they have won on several occasions,

Concluding that this nominee has devoted years to maximize the Organization of regional practices for the benefit of their partner nations and should be Endorsed by this body,

Hereby commends Crushing Our Enemies.

This is the discussion thread. To cast your vote, go HERE

[Lenlyvit]

Same arguments I had in the SC, raiding is not commendable and leading raider organizations isn't either. Full heartedly against.

[HumanSanity]

Nope. No. Neither, never, nada, no.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

I can't say I know much about COE, but the proposal doesn't provide strong arguments for the commendation, and I trust the experience of Kuriko and HS in these matters. Against.

[Elite]

I can't imagine this will fail, but I guess this will be the hill I die on.

Against.

[Sargon Reman]

Against

[Shy Guy]

No.

[Paffnia]

Joining the "no" train.

[Shy Guy]

Jan 29, 2020 2:22:07 GMT -5 Shy Guy said:

No.

Memeing aside, I don't think that improving the "professionalism" of a raiding organization twiced condemned and being put into a raider hall of hame for it is not commendable in the slightest.

But this may just be my fenda moralist bias. /s

[Federal Republic of Isentran]

I voted no

[Imperio de los Torres]

Commending a member of The black hawks is hands down one of the dumbest things to do, it's like commending an angry warlord that destroys other nations.. oh wait it's exactly what they want to do! I just hope that all of the people the black hawks have wronged vote against it.

edit: I meant regions not nations 

[Louisistan]

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell NO.

[Dorab]

This would be like commending Twobagger. They were once contributed a lot to a region, but then they joined The Black Hawks.

[Lenlyvit]

So, I'll be controversial as our Delegate. If this resolution was split, with General COE being commended for his work in TNP and COE being condemned for his work in TBH, I would have supported both. The way they're both tossed into one proposal like this makes me against it, especially since its trying to commend leadership in a raider region where it should condemn it.

I once held the position that we shouldn't give raiders badges of honor (condemnations), but that is far more preferable than commending raiders for raider stuff. So I've changed my position, and think COE should be condemned for his work in TBH and I know for a fact that it can be written in a way that commends it at the same time as condemns it.

[Kanaia]

Against. But I have to disagree with you Kuriko, the harm raiders do while raiding can outweigh the good they might do in other regions. And COE was raiding in a time before influence, when greifing regions was the norm. I would assert that he has cause far more harm to the NS community, than benefit.

[Deleted]

I missed this whole thread with work. I like COE, had a bit of interaction with him outside NS and he's an alright guy. I can't, however, get behind this resolution's cavalier treatment of raiding.

I also don't think there's any realistic way to parse the before from the after in any commendation of COE. If it was just a commend based on everything done since the raiding, the raiding would still be a pretty big elephant in the room.

THX has voted against.

[Lenlyvit]

Jan 31, 2020 0:50:38 GMT -5 Kanaia said:

Against. But I have to disagree with you Kuriko, the harm raiders do while raiding can outweigh the good they might do in other regions. And COE was raiding in a time before influence, when greifing regions was the norm. I would assert that he has cause far more harm to the NS community, than benefit.

Perhaps you are right Kanaia. This will definitely be conflicting me for a long time, and hopefully I can find a personal solution at some point.

[Marxist Germany]

No.

[Libraziland]

Obviously no