Michael Jackson: Guilty or Innocent?

[Greek People Nation (GPN)]

Alfonia said:

Agreed, but who doesn't? Ok, my odd habits are not nearly as bad quote]


But he some disturbing odd habitis. He needs to see ashrink or something.

[Alfonia]

YAY! Innocent!


Told ya so...

This makes me so happy! Screw anyone that has been saying bad stuff about him just because they can't tolerate a person is different. YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY!

(this is nessecary gravedigging by the way)

[Sheynat]

Whoosh. Nothin but net. ;D

[Grub (Lenlyvit)]

He was found innocent, but that doesn't mean he isn't a child molester, which he is. Just like in the recent Robert Blake trial, it is very sad when there are juries filled with a bunch of pea brains. I knew it wasn't a good sign when some of the jury members were pretty openly smirking at the kid who is now an adult when he was on the stand saying how Jackson fondled him when he was a kid. The jury the set a repeated child molester go. Shame on them and I hope they remember what they did when future kids talk about how Jackson molested them after the time of this trial.

[Sheynat]

Give me a break, Grub. It was freakin' obvious. There was loads of evidence hurting his credibility, and he'd been bullied into making BS charges before now by the so-called "mother". The defense shredded the prosecution's case, because the prosecution's case was pure BS. The "mom" has a history of BS lawsuits. This is just the most high profile. It's not a case of pea-brained jurors. It's a case of the prosecution quite simply failing to do their job. Unless you've ever served on a criminal jury, you don't know what's it like in there. There are things we learn that the jury doesn't, and things the jury learns that we don't. If there is the slightest doubt in your mind-the SLIGHTEST-you are legally required to vote to acquit. In this case, it would take a hell of a prosectuion to convince a jury that such an obviously crooked bunch of folks was telling the truth. I personally believe MJ is innocent. But, innocent or guilty, it's nobody's fault but the prosecution. All they had to do was convince a single juror of Jackson's guilt, in order to get a retrial. They failed.
And in order to pre-empt the race card, this was a case of a black man acquitted by an almost totally white jury. I believe there was a Hispanic and a Filipino, and the rest were white. All that said, if the eleventh count had been "being a supremely creepy guy", he would have been convicted.

[Alfonia]

So you think that the prosecution was able to prove that Jackson was without doubt guilty, Grub?

I think not...
Are you sure your opinion isn't based on your personal opinions about Michael Jackson?

[Grub (Lenlyvit)]

The mom was shady, but the prosecution did not shread apart the story of the kid. The bottom line is the Jackson has molested in the past and he will most likely do it again. Now he is free to do it. Very, very sad.

For everyone who thinks Jackson is truly innocent, if you had a child, would you leave him alone with Jackson?

[Grub (Lenlyvit)]

I think the jury had to be 51% sure Jackson molested the kid to find him guilty.

[Sheynat]

This is an irrelevant question. The answer is, of course, no, I would not leave my child alone with Jackson. I wouldn't leave my child alone with anybody I didn't know. If I knew him, maybe, maybe not. But hey, the people who know him best sure seem plenty comfortable.

[Sheynat]

admin said:

I think the jury had to be 51% sure Jackson molested the kid to find him guilty.

Can't be, because that guy who shot up Atlanta and took the girl hostage got a hung jury with eight people voting to convict. When he went nuts, he was headed towards a retrial.

[Grub (Lenlyvit)]

sheynat said:

admin said:

I think the jury had to be 51% sure Jackson molested the kid to find him guilty.

Can't be, because that guy who shot up Atlanta and took the girl hostage got a hung jury with eight people voting to convict. When he went nuts, he was headed towards a retrial.

I think the 51% is how certain they are he did it. So, if they were 51% sure he molested the kid they would vote guilty. It is different for different types of cases and states, etc., but that is how I heard this one explained.

[Alfonia]

I don't have kids... yet at least... but no i wouldn't leave them alone with a complete stranger...

i think MJ seems to be a very nice and friendly person (though weird, but that's ok, it's ok to be weird), and it's horrible that someone can dream of sending him to prison for 20 years just so they can earn some cash.

I'm glad this is over, as it has obviously been a very hard time for Mr. Jackson.

[Sheynat]

I just took a contemporary law class, and the teacher said you had to be 100 percent certain. If you had the slightest doubt, you said not guilty. But hey, I don't know, I'm going to have to look that up.
I think he's weird as hell, but hey, think about this. His father stole his childhood from him, pushing him to be a star. He ends up rich. It's understandable to try to steal a little back, to be obsessed with kids and live in a theme park. If he's guilty, which, as I have said, I don't think he is, that's not explainable by his father, though.

[Alfonia]

sheynat said:

I just took a contemporary law class, and the teacher said you had to be 100 percent certain. If you had the slightest doubt, you said not guilty. But hey, I don't know, I'm going to have to look that up.

that was how they described it here

[Grub (Lenlyvit)]

Check out the 100% and 51% thing for California because that's the way I heard it described on the radio today.

[Gluuland]

Michal Jackson has been found not guilty on all 10 charges.......

[Goldenloser2241]

thank god that garbage is over.

[Bearakistan]

Gosh, the accuser's mother was so unbelievable during the trial. She was such a gold-digger, seriously she probably would have let her children be molested jsut to get some money from the sueing.

[RichfieldMN]

I was happy when the NOT GUILTY verdicts were announced. I thought the mother of the kid was shady, and law suit happy. She has already tried to sue a store because a security guard was alleged to have sexually assaulted her afer she had shop lifted. The case was thrown out. She has said in interviews that Jackson is a great guy. She had a major credibility problem, so did the kid. The judge should not have allowed previous cases, as in California they are not normally allowed.

Jackson may be weird, he may allow kids in his bed which is not normal behavior, but there is no proof he sexually molested anyone. 3 people who were alleged to have been sexually molested by Jackson denied it in court.

The prosecution failed to prove MJ molested anyone and the jury found him not guilty. The jury were not pea brained they were intelligent adults who spent 30 hours going through the evidence and thought long and hard about it.

I hate people who are money grabbers, that woman should be charged with fraud and locked away.

There was also testimony from jury members who said the mother started at them all the time in a intiimidary way, and clicked her fingers at them ... she did not create a very good impression with the jury at all.

[Estayland]

So I heard the jury voted not guilty on the very first vote... so why did it take so long?

[RichfieldMN]

I assume they wanted to go through all the evidence, ... I am not sure how the US jury system works, but my partner has served on two juries and said the first thing they did was take a preliminary vote to see where people stood, then they discussed the evidence, then they had another vote .. if it is unanimous then they return to court

[Eschonic Casa Don]

In accuallity he was innocent so i have nothing to really say.