btw, I agree with Ancient Byzantium here on this one. I believe that we can all still respect each other as organizations. The Italian Empire is also, as far as invaders go, one of the more merciful ones that I have seen as well.
I think that we should be forgiving in this matter.
YOU defenders kill the regions, do not blame the invaders. In fact, Irk was a prosperous region under our control. Much more prosperous than when it was "independent." When we took control, the region prospered, the UN delegate allowed tons of immigration. Irk even has its own region parliament, and significant participation in our Senate. We were even recruiting for Senators in that region. But once again, as usual, defenders attack as cowardly as always. Italian Empire is in internal trouble, the leader is frequently unavailable, and you consider it a brilliant time to strike.
Sadly, I have beem monitoring Irk this entire time, and it was not more prosperous. Only one guy agrees with you in the region, Antimuro. And you have only have 1 or 2 immigrants. Your wrong, you are imperialist for trying to take the region in the first place. Thats an invasion buddy, and we will not stand for it. Retreat now or face the consequences, I was in favor of giving you a second chance, but the second you spring lies around us and try to invade a helpless region such as Irk, I got pissed. Now you pay.
Post by New Dracora on Jan 29, 2005 13:35:33 GMT -5
Imperial said:
Italian Empire is in internal trouble, the leader is frequently unavailable, and you consider it a brilliant time to strike.
Is that how all defenders act? Because in that case, I condemn you.
Perhaps you don't quite understand what we stand for so for that, I will be polite and not laugh heinously in your face over the severe lack of intelligence you appear to be displaying in this matter and for ensuring that any sympathetic feelings that originated in calls for a second chance are crushed indefinately under the weight of your entirely thick cranium.
As such I will put it in laymans terms what a defender group does stand for,
Elimination of Invaders and the practice of invading.
It's not so much a game to us as it is to you careless 'vader groups. In essence invading is a disease and we are the cure. You don't like our tactics tough, we are not here to play we are here to get rid of you and all your invader buddies.
Italia, i have something that you can think about:
We are the ones who believe that all regions should be able to govern themselves, you are the ones who do not. Since this is the case, how can you claim that it is we, and not you, that are destroying regions?
Läderkläder som luktar fläder skyddar bra mot dåligt väder.
You lie vehenemetly. Irk had 2 nations when Italian Empire invaded. It grew to 9 when by the time you "defenders" "liberated" the region. And it kept prospering as another two nations entered. Then you attack. Stop with the lies.
Ok, in my opinion, this senseless bickering is completely pointless. This will only lead to continual hatred and fighting between both sides. It will only give the other one more propoganda to fire at each of you and to the rest of the NS world anyway. The credibility of both parties involved will decrease as a result.
Now, I have an idea for how to settle this. Since both TITO and The Italian Empire are allies of The Persian Empire, I will ask a representative from both sides to come to our foreign affairs section and we will hold a summit there.
That way, we can continue this arguement under the watch of a third party who is allied with both sides. Plus we can get further input from reps from other defender and invader allies as well.
Unless of course, we all wish to keep fighting with each other over a region with 9 nations in it? In the broad scheme of things this is definately not worth the effort, considering how many other regions there are in the NS World that are out there.
Let us come to The Persian Empire, and let us not be so angry and hateful with each other over ideology to the point where we lose our dignity and integrity.
Every region, doesn't matter if it has 9 or 900 inhabitants, has the right to govern itself. I don't think the size of the region matters. TITO is here to protect everyone from bullies and invaders, not only bigger regions. I'm sure that the italian empire would invade bigger regions if they had the capacity...
Läderkläder som luktar fläder skyddar bra mot dåligt väder.
Or you could try to be kind about things and realize that this is just a game perhaps?
In all honesty, the point I was trying to make was that a small region isn't worth all of this argueing and bickering is it? Or are both sides the bullies here?
I came to an alliance with TITO expecting a benevolent group, one that is perhaps better than the ADN.
you guys could be a bit more forgiving about all of this :-(. I understand the ideology of not letting bullies get away with stuff. But is it worth sinking ourselves to that level just to win an arguement?
If it is, then perhaps I will ask King Solaris to send another ambassador. One that will not get disrespected so easily. I would personally question if this group truly stands up to the ideals it claims to uphold.
Cause right now I feel very upset about what New Age Guilds has just said. That level of rudeness is just uncalled for.
Post by Grub (Lenlyvit) on Jan 31, 2005 14:13:53 GMT -5
Generally, Invaders are not welcomed on this forum. King Cyrus is a different case because it is not his desire to harass and pester regions and has, in fact, helped to recently liberate a region.
With the Italian Empire fellow, that nation just sounds like a typical invader bully and is hereby banned.