Grade 1 Course for TK Islandic

[Bellemiatic]

Tago Bono! I am the Tikidoro of this language course. Please esago asseron ua introduko yourselves.

Tut afebundle of stickso Isulog Mile Dse! (Someone made this the slogan of the region, please.)

Attachment: 3rd Edition Grammar Book

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[Anartonia]

Nice! I'm still a bit confused by some verb forms (those that aren't Infinitive, Simple Past, Present, or Future), mainly because I never really understood those anyway, no matter which language I was learning them in. Could you clarify, please?

[Wordy]

wow, you had done an incredible amount of work!

[Paffnia]

Oct 4, 2011 14:41:15 GMT -5 Anartonia said:

Nice! I'm still a bit confused by some verb forms (those that aren't Infinitive, Simple Past, Present, or Future), mainly because I never really understood those anyway, no matter which language I was learning them in. Could you clarify, please?

Lemme try to explain.
Let's use the verb "to eat"/ "mangago"
Endings in italics.

Present participle
In English: eating
In Islandic: mangogs

Present progressive (also called present continuous)
In English: I am eating
In Islandic: ego eso mangogs (literally "I," then the present tense of "to be," then the present participle of "to eat")

Part participle
In English: eaten
In Islandic: mangon

Present perfect
In English: I have eaten
In Islandic: ego afo mangon (literally "I," then the present tense of "to have," then the past participle of "to eat")

Past perfect (also called pluperfect)
In English: I had eaten
In Islandic: ego afok mangon (literally "I," then the simple past tense of "to have," then the past participle of "to eat")

Future perfect
In English: I will have eaten
In Islandic: ego afod mangon (literally "I," then the future tense of "to have," then the past participle of "to eat")

In short, just translate word-by-word the English verb to get the Islandic one. Simple.

[Anartonia]

Oct 4, 2011 18:42:03 GMT -5 Paffnia said:

Past perfect (also called pluperfect)
In English: I had eaten
In Islandic: ego avok mangon (literally "I," then the simple past tense of "to have," then the past participle of "to eat")

Ah; I have (or should I say "I had"?) encountered this before, but I knew it as pluperfect only. Thanks!

[Paffnia]

Let me introduce myself, by the way.

Ego eso Pafniu, oksilidoro tikidoros fotros.

Speaking of which, I just invented the words for "teacher's assistant"...

Also, Bellemiatic, the dictionary on the Word doc on the original thread has updated words that have reverted in the Word doc in this thread (like "to have").

[Anartonia]

It's going to take a while for me to be able to translate stuff without looking back at the booklet each time

All right, here goes:

...

Wait, how would I translate names?

[Paffnia]

Oct 4, 2011 19:12:39 GMT -5 Anartonia said:

Wait, how would I translate names?

Names are artistic/linguistic, so they end in "-u"
Anartonia could be "Anartoniu," for example.

[Eist]

This is fantastic! What an amazing contribution to the Islands!

[Anartonia]

Thanks!

All right. For the second time, here goes:

Saludo; ego eso Anartoniu... a chainsaw-wielding maniac?

A few suggestions: Can you add an imperative form for verbs, as well as conjunctions? Also, in XKIslandic, are there articles, or is it like Latin, where articles aren't necessary?

[Paffnia]

Oct 4, 2011 19:41:25 GMT -5 Anartonia said:

A few suggestions: Can you add an imperative form for verbs, as well as conjunctions? Also, in XKIslandic, are there articles, or is it like Latin, where articles aren't necessary?

We have "ua" (and), plus "o" (or).

Sept 27, 2011 8:34:02 GMT -5 Bellemiatic said:

I don't know whether I should add article or not, 'cause Latin doesn't have any definite article.

For Indefinite articles, we simply adding "So" before the object, such as a poem becomes "so Pömu", and note that like German, all noun has a capitalized first letter.

"So" means both "one" and "a/an."
Imperatives are an issue for our teacher.

Anar, if there are words (like "chainsaw-wielding maniac") you want to add, you can join Bellemiatic and I in contributing vocabulary to Islandic.

[Anartonia]

Bellemiatic, could you add those to the booklet?

[Paffnia]

For the last two entries,
"Blood Red = Ruso di Blutos
Sea Blue = Blo di Maros"
Why is "di" in there if the following nouns are genitive?

[Anartonia]

(Reply to the post below ) So, literally, it would translate back into English as "Maniac of Chainsaw-Wielding".

I like it.

Here's an idea for a sentence structure with a subject complement. I only just learned about these, so feel free to correct me on these:

[Nominative] [Subject Complement] [Form of "to be" (esago)]

[Bellemiatic]

Paffnia I have been editing the dictionary every day and the one in the original thread is merely a rough work, and the latest and the most polished one will be this one, 'cause I can't edit the attachment in the post yet... And thanks for you contribution once more!

Anartonia This is the new words for you:

Chainsaw = Motosego
To Wield = Maniago
Maniac = Fansinnigo

So, the Chainsaw-wielding maniac = Fansinnigo di Motosegos-Maniogs.

As you see, the word orders are a bit different from English, You need to place the noun before adjectives, and a 'of' and Genitive form is necessary for connecting 2 nouns together.

@all_STUDENTS Imperative is the present present tense without the pronoun or the subject in front of it.

P.S: I newer update of the Grammar Book is attached.

EDIT: I am keep updating the book!

Paffnia For avago, there's no 'v' in Islandic, so we use 'f' instead. Therefore avago becomes af*go. That looks a bit less like French. Actually this is a barrel to those didn't learn to forget the 'of', but, as you suggested, this have been edited.

Anartonia (Just in English as rough version)
I myself punch.
Actually I am not really good at English Grammar and roughly know that this is to describe more about the noun. So, I guess we can use this one:

[Nominative] [Adjective] [Reflexive Pronouns/Subject Complement] [Adjective (if have)] [Verb] [Adverb] [Accusative] [Adjective]

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[Anartonia]

Oh, and to get around the word filter for "afago", just use this as a substitute for the "a":
a

[Paffnia]

Oct 4, 2011 20:30:16 GMT -5 Bellemiatic said:

Paffnia For avago, there's no 'v' in Islandic, so we use 'f' instead. Therefore avago becomes af*go. That looks a bit less like French.

Whoops. Earlier post edited.

[Anartonia]

Oct 4, 2011 20:30:16 GMT -5 Bellemiatic said:

there's no 'v' in Islandic, so we use 'f' instead

So wouldn't the second person plural pronouns become "fotro", "fotrot", "fotros", etc.?

[Bellemiatic]

Yeah, my bad. I would post the updated version later on with more editions.

[Paffnia]

Oct 4, 2011 20:38:08 GMT -5 Anartonia said:

Oct 4, 2011 20:30:16 GMT -5 Bellemiatic said:

there's no 'v' in Islandic, so we use 'f' instead

So wouldn't the second person plural pronouns become "fotro", "fotrot", "fotros", etc.?

Very true.

[Anartonia]

I like the replacing of "v" with "f". It makes the language seem more different.

Speaking of which, there are still too many words that sound too similar to English words...

[Bellemiatic]

Pafniu, en Ilandikut, Notro parlo "Vero" o "Tre Vero" ma nit "Very True" en Inglesut.

(New Words added)

[Bellemiatic]

Anartonia In the vocabularies, less than 5% has English origin...

[Anartonia]

What do "parlo" and "ma nit" mean?

[Bellemiatic]

parlo is the present tense of 'to speak (parlago)'

ma is a new word means 'but', Italian origin.

nit is a new word means 'not', German origin.

[Paffnia]

Oct 4, 2011 20:46:10 GMT -5 Bellemiatic said:

Pafniu, en Ilandikut, Notro parlo "Vero" o "Tre Vero" ma nit "Very True" en Inglesut.

"Tre Fero," ego tinko.

[Bellemiatic]

Good job, Pafniu.

[Bellemiatic]

Tut afefo Isulog Mile Dse!

[Anartonia]

I'm confusing daily life nouns with first person singular verbs. I suggest that for daily life nouns, you change the suffix to "-a".

[Anartonia]

Oct 4, 2011 20:56:30 GMT -5 Bellemiatic said:

Tut afefo Isulog Mile Dse!

Wouldn't it be "Isulog Mile Dise"?