10ki history in pics

[Ananke II]

I found a lot of screenshots taken of 10000 Islands ingame through the years and thought it’d be fun to use them to write a history of 10ki. Since I’ve had several extended periods away from Nationstates and only joined 10ki back in 2008 (but was active in the defender sphere, which included TITO, as far back as 2003) the info here is going to be somewhat spotty.

My basic thought is to annotate each picture, prompted by what I notice in it. So it’ll be a mix of 10ki and NS history or pretty much whatever memories of mine each pic manage jog.

If any of you have comments, info or stories about what you see in the pics (or the time period surrounding each pic) please post it in this thread and I’ll add it to the history. I plan on posting the screenshots in batches, so this first one will deal with summer 2003.

Oh, and feel free to post in this thread whenever you want. I’ll just post a new ‘history’ post whenever I manage to finish a batch of annotations and then maybe make a more organised thread when I’m all done.


27 July 2003
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This is the earliest pic I’ve been able to find. It shows 10000 Islands just a couple of days before the Empire of Power invasion, which happened on 30 July 2003 and had a profound effect on the development of 10000 Islands.

For those who haven’t seen it yet this thread contains some info about the invasion:
10000islands.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Library&action=display&thread=5726

Network Radio also has some posts about the invasion:

Interview with New Boniventure
networkradio.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=d&action=display&thread=86

New Boniventure was a longtime 10ki member, who posted some of the first warnings about a EoP attack on 10ki. From what I’ve been able to gather, before he joined 10ki and TITO he was involved in freelance defending and as a member of Urbanites he gathered intel and later became Intel Advocate there. From 1/04 to 9/04 he was a senator in 10ki.

Statement about 10000 Islands: networkradio.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=d&action=display&thread=88

War at 10000 Islands (Interview with Frenchie): networkradio.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=d&action=display&thread=87

10000 Islands give a statement: networkradio.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=d&action=display&thread=89

From the look of the RMB 10ki was a pretty quiet region at this point, but with some active members, who participated in roleplay ingame. TITO started as a roleplay defense treaty before the EoP invasion. Lyonnesse is the delegate of a 14 member region and she, TheSensitiveNewAge and Blue Canaria all show up in the first page of the UN report. Grub is celebrating his 1 billionth citizen, so has been around for ~6 months at this point.

The Wider NS world
In The East Pacific, 1 Infinite Loop is secure in the delegacy ever since he was put into the top spot by the Farkers when the new feeder region was only a couple of hours old.

By Kandarin; Military Blunders: The East Pacific
s8.zetaboards.com/The_RR_and_RRA/single/?p=74592&t=503382

July was a chaotic month for The South Pacific, which lost two delegates - Alpha C and Gatron- after they got ejected from the UN. The delegacy then went to LadyRebels, who has been a prominent member of TSP through the years. Under her The South Pacific became a member of the Atlantic Alliance, which was the first really big imperialist organisation in Nationstates. LadyRebels didn't really participate in the inner workings of the AA though and was resistant to meddling in her region, so TSP didn't feel the AA connection much, while it lasted.

Spring/summer of 2003 was the Atlantic Alliance’s heyday. Several wellknown defender groups were formed in response to their imperialist policies in Nationstates, including ADN and MASS. Under Accelsior (Thomasia) the org was somewhat imperialist, but politically astute, enough so to keep enemies at bay and charm neutrals. Under Pilmour, Loudamin and Mr Nonchalant it turned more invader.

The old ACC (Atlantic Central Command) forum for anyone who fancies having a look around:
atlantic.proboards.com/index.cgi

Looks like Alpha C was a full ACC member. Didn't know that. Interesting.

By Kandarin: Military Blunders: The Atlantic Central Command
s8.zetaboards.com/The_RR_and_RRA/single/?p=74593&t=503382

20 August 2003
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Grub is now founder of 10000 Islands, so must have petitioned the moderators for founder status in the 20 days since the EoP invasion happened. Back in 2003 there was a period of time after founders got introduced in the game, where already founded regions could have a founder appointed. For regions like 10000 Islands, Nasicournia and Texas this was a good thing, since they gained skilled and stable players as their founder. Some regions though were lost to crashers, who gained foundership through trickery.

The region has grown from 14 to 55 members, the recruiting drive probably having been initiated after the EoP scare. Lyonnesse is still delegate, but New Republica is about to take over. TITO now exist as a defender force (at this point mostly to defend 10000 Islands though) and the region is starting to get involved with the rest of Nationstates.

Judging by the RMB founder clearing is already legal at this point. That’ll come back to haunt 10ki in the future though. Looking at the WFE 10ki is now formally allied with Texas and Urbanites, both regions, which helped 10ki during the EoP invasion. Urbanites especially was very active in defending back then.

The Wider NS world
In early august The Savage Lands took over as delegate of the Pacific;
networkradio.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=d&action=display&thread=90

For a while he and Thedoc traded the delegacy between them. The Pacific already had a somewhat closeknit community at this point, with an offsite forum. It was the first feeder region to get a defender military, Pacific Army, lead by The Savage Lands.

RRA took over the delegacy of the region Monte Carlo. This story is mostly interesting because Sir Lans, who’ve been a TITO Tactical Officer, was the native delegate of Monte Carlo before RRA moved in:
networkradio.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=d&action=display&thread=99

23 august 2003
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Due to their defense of 10ki and the fact that Urbanites players like Anarchotopia (who shows up on the 10ki regional happenings in this pic) and 3 am eternal were very active defenders Urbanites got targetted for invasion by Empire of Power as well. Looks like TITO and others were on the ball though and made sure the region didn’t fall. In 10ki New Republica is still campaigning for the delegacy, since Lyonnesse has less time to play and have let people know that she wouldn’t mind stepping down as delegate.

The last post on the RMB mentions a defense of the region 007 Big and Bouncy Breasts. I found this news report about it;
networkradio.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=d&action=display&thread=100

Personal aside; The players mentioned in that link (Mu-Mu, Griv, 3 am eternal and Thorn) were some of the old defenders who taught me a lot about defending and gameplay politics. I feel really fortunate that I got to hang out and defend with these people, when I was a bit of a newbie compared to them. I actually met Thorn in real life once. Very nice guy.

The Wider NS World
The invasion of Urbanites caused some frictions in that region, with 3 am eternal leaving the region due to some posts by the Urbanites delegate Insaaniyat.

NetworkRadio has the details:
Apparently Not So Eternal:
networkradio.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=d&action=display&thread=101

Urbanites view of 3 am eternal:
networkradio.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=d&action=display&thread=102

Speaking from personal experience though, I’m happy to report that 3 am eternal and Insaaniyat made up and spent many a year happily defending NS from invaders together. I’ve defended with both of them over the years. 3 am eternal especially I really looked up to as an oldtime defender. My first stint as defender delegate in a bigger invasion I got because 3 am eternal asked everyone to endorse me, working out all the details.

In The Pacific Francos Spain gained the delegacy in late August, kicking the former delegate thedoc and stirring up NS gameplay for years to come.

From NetworkRadio:
Changing of the Guard in The Pacific:
networkradio.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=d&action=display&thread=105

An Army Against Francos:
networkradio.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=d&action=display&thread=106

Francos Spain’s antics in The Pacific lead to regional banlists being capped at 200 nations and got a lot of regions and nations to band together to try and topple him from the delegacy.

By Kandarin; Military Blunders: s8.zetaboards.com/The_RR_and_RRA/single/?p=74594&t=503382

To be added: Something about the Pacific liberation attempts. However I need to gather some additional info first.

Let me know if there’s any additional info I should add to the fist 3 pics.

[Land]

This is great Ananke! If you're interested AD also has this thread as well. Although, you've probably both used the wayback machine in which case you'll get the same dates anyway .

A couple of things that I find interesting too...

New Boniventure was involved with The Urbanites (and possibly other groups too) and was at one point their highest ranked intel officer

From the look of the RMB 10ki was a pretty quiet region at this point, but with some active members, who participated in roleplay ingame.

TITO begun as a roleplay mutual defence pact over the RMB, however following the EoP attack it turned gameplay.

From when Lyonnesse was delegate to the October 2004 delegate elections (when TSNA was elected) all delegate elections were done through endorsements, with the winner being the first to reach a target/percentage of the current delegate's endorsements. I'll add to this story more when the appropriate picture comes around .

[Ananke II]

Yeah, AD's thread is great too. It shows the WFEs though and I thought the RMBs/regional happenings were pretty interesting on some of the screenshots + when I started digging I found a *lot* of pics from certain periods. All of which I'll probably posts as soon as I get them sorted.

The thing about how 10ki delegates were elected back then I'm planning on adding to the annotations of 18 december 2003 pic. Thanks for reminding me though, and the info about TITO starting out as a roleplay pact.

The more comments the better. Would be great if we could crowdsource a 10ki history rather than just rely on my spotty memory.

[Elite]

Sorry that I can't help you, Ananke, the bit about Grub having to petition to get foundership rights was the only bit of slightly little-known facts I knew about the XKI. XD

[Ananke II]

Post #2


4 october 2003
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New Republica is now delegate. Unfortunately this is the day Lyonnesse CTE’d. She was delegate of 10ki from 28 May 2003 to 10 September 2003 and was one of the 5 founding members of TITO together with Grub, Blue Canaria, The SensitiveNewAge and Titanica.

The current 10ki forum doesn’t exist yet, but another 10ki page is listed in the WFE. I’m not sure who Freedomites is, but he shows up on screenshots of 10ki several times. Might be some kind of freelance defender. The defense of 00000000000 (ten zeros) mentioned on the RMB seems to have been covered by RRA and GLA. I recognise a lot of the names from the screenshot of the defense I was able to dig up anyway. Looks like the invaders in the region were from Air Strip One.

Looking at the regional happenings we’ve got people moving to and from The Heartland and Alliance of Socialist States. The Heartland is an old roleplay region founded by the moderator Ineptia. Together with Wysteria and Texas they’re members of the Triumvirate. AoSS was a leftwing region, which was home to several wellknown freelance defenders back in 2003-2004. They tended to be less ‘rabid’ in their political outlook than regions like ASE and TPC. I’ve still got a soft spot for the place, since I really liked Mu-Mu.

The Wider NS World
Found a list of 100 biggest regions from back on september 2003 for those who are interested: z1.invisionfree.com/CACE/index.php?showtopic=237

Jennivier became the delegate of The Rejected Realms for a short period:
networkradio.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=d&action=display&thread=127
He’d been active in the region for a while. I seem to remember that relations between him and Kandarin/RRA soured though and 20 october 2003 he left TRR to become a member of ASE. He was a bit of a shady character, who also tried gaining the delegacy in The North Pacific around the same time. He moved back to endorsement trade in TRR in early 2004. At this point acting in opposition to Kandarin and RRA.

30 October 2003
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Himes became delegate 26 october, so has only been delegate for a couple of days at this point. After New Republica stepped down 14 october TheSensitiveNewAge had a short stint in the top spot. 10ki has grown a decent emount since the last screenshot. Looks like the discussion on the RMB deals with war in NS, both in regards to roleplay and gameplay.

The WFE now mentioned OSA as an ally of 10ki as well. OSA was Phoenix/Mendanau’s intel org. He was also one of the original founders of ADN. Phoenix’ NS history in his own words: s4.zetaboards.com/UDL/single/?p=8199796&t=9668510

The only thing that jumps out at me from the regional happening is someone arriving from USSR. At this point I think the region is a member of ADN. However Redcommunist and USSR is one of the first regions to formally recognise Francos Spain and the NPO in The Pacific, which gets him kicked of ADN. From that point on USSR enters the NPO sphere and stays there for years.


The Wider NS World
Around this point The New Meritocracy is hosting a summit for people who are against Francos Spain’s reign in The Pacific. It’s spearheaded by Jasque, who was Meritocratic consul at the time and includes a lot of people from various orgs and regions.

In November you’ve got the RadioFree Pacific liberation attempt. The intentions were good, but it’s a textbook example of how not to do a feeder liberation. Everyone was asked to gather in a stanging region and cross-endorse. A lot of people did show up. However with orders of move times being distributed in advance it was easy for the NPO to just make sure that Francos Spain was online at the right time. Everyone got kicked. Turned out ok for me though, since the TNP delegate, The Twoslit Experiment, noticed my participation and contacted me about helping him and some other found the North Pacific Army.

31 october 2003
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Not much new happening, other than Grub kicking a EoP nation, but thought I’d post the pic anyway.

[Land]

Is it possible to make all the images the bigger size (or at least give a link to the bigger ones)? Only it's really hard to see the writing in the smaller ones.

She was delegate of 10ki from 28 May 2003 to 10 September 2003 and was one of the 5 founding members of TITO together with Grub, Blue Canaria, The SensitiveNewAge and Titanica.

Sept 19, 2004 22:04:58 GMT -5 TheSensitiveNewAge said:

When I first came to the region, if I had to join TITO I would have left. However, I was in the region for about three weeks, and then I joined TITO.

What's that? It seems that TSNA joined TITO after it had formed. However I'm *almost* certain he's referring to the RP alliance rather than the GP group as his nation was first recorded in TexasDoss in May. In which case he is still one of the original founders of TITO as we know it. (that was just something interesting I found one day )


Also Himes was the first nation to be awarded the Distinguished Service Medal in honour of his time as delegate (it would have been awarded when he stepped down and we had these forums).

[Ananke II]

I'd like to make the pics bigger, but for some reason when I saved all the screenshots from the Wayback Machine, some of them were much bigger than the rest. I'm using imgur to host the images and had trouble uploading the big screenshots until I changed them from png to jpeg. So the pics which are easy to read are png, while the smaller ones are jpeg. I don't really know how to change the size of the smaller pics, Any idea?

I'll try and see if I can find the link to some of them again though.

Re: TSNA and TITO;

So you're saying that he wasn't a founding member of the RP alliance, but of TITO as a defender org? The remarks I've found about the 5 founding members of TITO seems to be in regards to the RP alliance though - considering two of the founding 'nations' is both Grub. Hmm.

[Land]

Could you get the original larger images and host them on a different site? Something like sqi.sh or tinypic or photobucket might work, although I'm not sure if they have maximum size limits.
EDIT: Or a direct link works just as well .

So you're saying that he wasn't a founding member of the RP alliance, but of TITO as a defender org? The remarks I've found about the 5 founding members of TITO seems to be in regards to the RP alliance though - considering two of the founding 'nations' is both Grub. Hmm.

Yes...it is just one of the mysteries this forum reveals, or rather, doesn't .

Those two nations are always considered to be not connected though, even when Grub posts about them it is as though he doesn't control both nations despite the truth, so it makes (at least some) sense to list both nations in XKI's history. In fact the only time I've seen public acknowledgment from Grub is when 'Grub' was deleted and he was forced to use his other nation to post with.

[Ananke II]

That's true about Grub. Interesting. It hadn't even crossed my mind. I edited in links to the screenshots hosted by the Wayback Machine. Does that work? I'll look into the other hosting sites as well.