Game Discussion Thread [pizza]

[The Candy Lane]

This is a place to discuss and present new Play by Forum game ideas.

Have an idea for a game we haven't tried before, but are stuck on how to 'make it work' in a forum environment? Maybe we can collaborate and find a way to tweak the rules or gameplay so that it does work.

General game discussion and proposals are also welcome.

[The Candy Lane]

I'd like to try 2 Rooms and a Boom. Here's what I've got for it so far:

Two Rooms and a Boom

TL;DR Two Rooms and a Boom – a hidden role party game for six or more players – there are two main teams: the Red Team and the Blue Team. There might also be a Grey team.
I. The Blue Team has a President. The Red Team has a Bomber.
II. Players are equally distributed between two rooms (i.e., PM threads).
III. The game consists of 3 rounds, 24 hours in length.
IV. At the end of each round, some players will be swapped into opposing rooms.
V. If the Red Team's Bomber is in the same room as the President at the end of the game, then the Red Team wins; otherwise the Blue Team wins.

tuesdayknightgames.com/tworoomsandaboom/?utm_source=tworoomsandaboom&utm_medium=redirect


Three Teams:
Blue (Loyalists) - Objective: Protect the President
Red (Rebels) - Objective: Kill the President
Grey (Bandwagon - only if there is an odd number of players) - Objective: Correctly guess who won.

Players are randomly assigned roles and teams, each player’s role and team is hidden from fellow players. Players are then divided into two rooms by the manager. During the turn players may reveal their Character and colour to one another. At the end of each turn the leader selects one person to go to the other room.

Character cards*:
1 President - Survive
Loyalist - Ensure the President survives
1 Bandwagoner - Predict which side wins at the end of the last round, before the winner is revealed
Rebel - Ensure the President is killed.
1 Bomber - Kill the President
*The way to determine the character and allegiance of your fellow players is by sharing.

Allegiance ­- the team a player is on (typically Red, Blue, Grey, or otherwise). All Red and Blue
Team have opposing victory conditions. Grey characters have no allegiance, but have specified win objectives. Initially players don't know who their team mates are.

“Dead”­ - at the end of the last round the Bomber’s bomb explodes. This causes
everyone in the room to gain the “dead” condition.

Hostage ­ - the player the leader of a room chooses to leave the room at the end
of a round. At the end of each round, Leaders publicly announce their hostage selection. They announce this only to THEIR room, not to both rooms. Once the announcement has been made, a room's leader may not change their minds.

Leader ­ - the nominated player that chooses the hostages to leave the room at the
end of the round. A leader can never be a hostage. The leaders are nominated and elected at the beginning of the first turn, by simple majority, and remain the leader of the room until they are removed by the other members of the room* or pass the leadership to another player.**
*Player’s must post No Confidence; I Nominate ___ (you may nominate yourself)
Ie. if the room has 3 people, two people need to support the candidate.
**That player must then choose whether to accept or decline the leader role.


Sharing: when 2 players consent to privately show one another their player cards. Asking for consent is a very important life skill.
eg. Player A asks Player B in the Room PM Thread, and if it is agreed to the sharing takes place in a private thread set up by Player B.
The GM must be included in all private PM threads in which sharing takes place. Sharing is only allowed between players in the same room. When sharing you must be truthful about your own Character and Allegiance. If you don’t intend to share cards, don’t ask. You can lie all you like in the Room thread.


There are 3 basic rules of play to keep in mind during the rounds.

The 3 rules are:
1.) You have to stay in your room (PM thread). You can’t c+v information outside of the room you are in. Contacting a player in your current room is allowed.
2.) There is absolutely no communicating between rooms. You may not say things
to players in other rooms or try to eavesdrop. Even if you can see into the other
room, there is no sign language permitted.
3.) You can't trade character cards. You can do pretty much anything you want with
your character card. You can show it to someone. You can show it to anyone. However, you are not permitted to swap character cards with another player. That's your card ­ take care of it.

Victory Conditions
At the end of the final round, the hostage selection and exchange happens as
usual. Once the hostages exchange rooms, The gambler will announce which team he thinks won. Then the GM will reveal each player’s character card.
The Bomber’s bomb detonates, killing everyone in the same room as the Bomber. If the
President is in the room with Bomber, then the entire Red Team wins. If the
President is not in the room with the Bomber, then the entire Blue Team wins. If the Gambler guessed the correct room he has achieved his objective and won.

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Should the sharing rule be changed? As it is you don't know who your team mates are so it's the only way to find out who is on your side. The original rules also state you can't lie if you accept to share your identity, so it kind of puts the pressure on the individual. Sharing is private not public, which means the GM would be inundated with PMs.

It looks like a really cool game to me, there are some versions with a full three teams though I'm not sure how that exactly works.

[Niadh]

Seems like a fun game

[Ater Nox]

I heard about this game a while ago, but couldn't quite see how it could be played on the forum. Perhaps each room having it's own PM thread would be the solution.

I've heard this game also works really well with lots of people and can be played with over 20 players. There are also a lot of other roles that can be included in future games.

If you can get this game to work TCL I think it has the potential to go really well. It's definitely worth a shot I think.

[Free Guns For All]

I've been meaning to mention this one for a while: XKI Plays Final Fantasy.

This is based loosely off of Twitch Plays Pokemon, where thousands of people input commands into a single game of Pokemon, attempting to get through it. This will be more or less the same thing, except you guys just spam the crap out of a thread with commands, I then input them into a game of Final Fantasy (the original 1987 NES version, played via an emulator) and see what happens. I'll try to give you a daily update on progress with pictures, but that's the crux of it.

[Aersoldorf]

What is TL;DR?

And Gunny, face it, I'm the final fantasy of most Islanders

[Benevolent Thomas]

Tl;DR means "too long; didn't read".

[Ater Nox]

TL;DR: Too long; didn't read. In the way TCL used it it's basically a short summary for people who can't be bothered to read the whole thing.

[The Candy Lane]

Now that we have dice, maybe there is a way we could bring board games, or some sort of game involving dice. Any suggestions?

[Control]

Have you started 2R&1B yet? I think it's worth trying.

[New Ecopia]

Jun 1, 2014 14:39:12 GMT -5 The Candy Lane said:

Now that we have dice, maybe there is a way we could bring board games, or some sort of game involving dice. Any suggestions?

How about Monopoly?

[The Candy Lane]

I was actually thinking about this earlier today. It's a game most are familiar with, could even use tacos...

Edit: I was thinking something along the lines of a buy in. Instead of the banker providing the starting funds you use your own, but now realize it would be too hard to keep track of. Maybe just a fee to play...?

[Control]

I'd like to stay friends with everyone in XKI, thanks.

[New Ecopia]

Jun 1, 2014 18:33:51 GMT -5 The Candy Lane said:

I was actually thinking about this earlier today. It's a game most are familiar with, could even use tacos...

That's a great idea Monopoly XKI Edition.

[Firstaria]

From the deeps of the hell known as Real Life, where all chances to do something actually useful dies in pain...I HAVE RETURNED!
Ah, It's been too long, but one good thing about summer is that you have the time to do anything you want, like finally returning in this island to see what is going on.

It's nice too see that things have gone along well, and especially this thing, as I had just met something interesting I want to discuss with you.

You all know Werewolf. It's a funny forum game, it can be spin in many way, it has only one problem: it's long. The game takes an entire month to play sometimes, and the fun can diminish when you are forced to wait outside for the game to end.

Wouldn't be fun if it was just...one turn game?

Introducing:

WEREWOLF ULTIMATE: ONE NIGHT STAND

This is a card version of Werewolf I recently found, and I was wary to play it because last card version that was not vanilla turned out to be an Euro game...and I find those boring. But my friend convinced me to play this, and I figured out it's so fun because the little amount of secrecy and the huge amount of deduction there is around.

The only problem is that the game is LIMITED TO 13 PLAYERS. I'm sure I can figure out a way to increase this limit, but it's equilibrium is very delicate, so i don't know if I should do it. The game can even be played from 4 players, but I find that if you don't reach a decent number it can be boring.

The game plays with these roles:

1 Actor
2 Werewolves
2 Masons
1 Minion
1 Seer
1 Robber
1 Troublemaker
1 Insomniac
1 Hunter
2 Villagers


And that's it. You may think this game is too similar to WW; but the point is that is really played over a single reasoning, meaning once the vote is out, the game is over...and boy that's not even the MAJOR change.
Indeed, after everyone knew his role, at the beginning of the game it's night phase, and this happens in this order.

IMPORTANT TO KNOW, EVERYTHING HAPPENS AT THE POINT INDICATED ON THE LIST, MEANING WHEN YOU GET TO KNOW SOMETHING, YOU GET TO KNOW IT AT THE POINT THE LIST SPECIFIES YOU ARE, NOT AFTER.

1. The Actor ask to know someone else's role. That becomes his role for the rest of the game, adding a new one in it.
2. The Werewolves get to know each other. If the Actor has become a werewolf, he's treated like a third werewolf.
3. The Masons get to know each other. If the Actor has become a mason, he's treated like a third mason.
4. The Minion get's to know who the Werewolves are. If the Actor has become a werewolf, he's treated like a third werewolf, but it will not reveal he's also the actor.
5. The Seer can know someone else's role. If he pics the Actor he will just know this, not the role the Actor has become.
6. The Actor will any power his new role gives him the possibility to do, except the Insomniac. In that case, he will do nothing.
7. The one that BELIEVES is the Robber choose a player, and steals his role. The player chosen becomes the role the Robber had WITHOUT KNOWING IT, while the original one can know the role he stole. If he steals the Actor, he has to play as a normal Villager.
8. The one that BELIEVES is the Troublemaker chooses two players, and those roles gets switched without them knowing!
9. The one that BELIEVES is the Insomniac will be able to look at his role again to see what he has become. He will not activate said role, and if it's the Actor he will play as a normal Villager. If the Actor picked the Insominac at the beginning, he will be able to see that role too.
10. The Day phase commences.

It's a little hard to follow, but pretty much the deal is that A LOT of roles get switched around, and then a single phase game commences...meaning there are no consequences!
Yes, the Seer can come out and say who he scouted, the Minion can shout the names, even the switcher can say the switch they made...or are they lying? The fun is that the game becomes deductive on figuring out how the night went, what actually happened like you all got a big hangover and you are figuring out who stole the socks. But remember, roles have been passed upon without people knowing! Imagine if the robber has stole a Werewolf role, now there is a good guy playing with the bad guy, and meanwhile the robber may be framed by his new friends! That is just an example on how crazy the game can be!

The other funny thing are the winning conditions:
Good side SURVIVORS wins as long as a Werewolf dies. Yes, you need to find only one of the two!
Bad side wins as long as a PURE Werewolf is not lynched.

So get this: the Actor is a good role! It means if he picks a werewolf, he wins with the Bad side, loses if a werewolf is lynched...but if he's lynched, even as a werewolf, the REMAINING Bad Side wins!

Ties are NOT broken: if 2 or more people have the same vote, they BOTH die. Also, if you ARE the Hunter and you died, whoever you voted dies too regardless of the number of votes! This happens when the role is revealed at your death, so you may have been switched and suddenly your random vote becomes a WMD directed on whoever you hated the most! Surprise!



But the funny thing is to check all roles after the end of the game: Imagine, you started as the Seer, spotted a wolf, you massacre yourself to convince the others you are telling the truth about that, you point out the culprit; they lynch him, is a Wolf! YES! Check the card...NO! You had become a Wolf too during the night! YOU LOSE!
And when that happens, believe me, we laughed for hours (needless to say, that was a personal example... ).

The best thing about this game is the speed of it: in Real time, we managed to do 4 games in 1 hour, when normally we manage to do only 1 game in 90 minutes with more that 10 people playing Werewolves. Putting a 48h timer on the forum time, you can play 4 mini-games in a week, or even 2 consecutive ones with some speed!!!

And that's the quick version of the game I found, I wish to try it sometimes, as it's played so fast I don't think it could interfere the normal game going on, and can also be played with less people just by removing some roles.

I have in mind also a major way to play the original WW, but I will make that known when I could do the Master, since it could be a little long...

[Ater Nox]

That sounds interesting First, I'd give it a go.

[Free Guns For All]

Would anyone object if I started a Cards Against Humanity thread? We wouldn't really be playing against each other, just putting up some of the funnier hands played.

If you don't know what CAH is, check this out...if you're not easily offended

www.cardsagainsthumanity.com/lab/

[Firstaria]

How do you play it on forums? It's a really fun and offensive game, but I really have no idea how.

[Free Guns For All]

It wouldn't be so much playing as just telling us about good hands you get. The link in my last post is to a free version (kind of a demo).

[Firstaria]

Well we could make a tread about "Pretend you are...", the online site of it.

By the way, I just found out I'm an idiot. In the speed of writing the rules of the quick round werewolf, I forgot the MINION is on the wolves side. He however doesn't know who the Actor is if he has become a Werewolf, so he may end up protecting him while lynching him makes the WW win the game.

[Aersoldorf]

No posts in 3 months so I'm unpinning this to clean up clutter. If it becomes active again then repinning is an option