WW43: The GM Sucks

[Barry]

Jun 2, 2015 17:09:19 GMT -5 Echolilia said:

FWIW, until Aersoldorf's "For the umpteenth time" comment, I didn't associate his comment about Flem's vote changes as being of the level of significance his earlier post seemed to promise….

That’s precisely my point, Echo. He promised ‘important’ information – to be delivered during the night phase, no less – and then when he told us what he had been alluding to, he agreed it was probably wrong, pretty much in the same sentence. Don’t your ears go up just a little? At least enough to bring to everyone’s attention for consideration?

Plus, what could have caused Tierra not to defend herself the first night? I think she may have read Aerso’s promise as making him someone who should be protected against the wolves’ killing him for being on their tracks. If you think my reading of Aerso’s post is odd, then you’re saying Tierra’s was odd too. I believe is very possible that Aerso’s promise caused us to lose Tee and is the reason why she didn’t defend herself.

Jun 2, 2015 17:09:19 GMT -5 Echolilia said:

Barry, can we lynch you if Aersoldorf is innocent? I think you are making cases out of thin air here, and it makes me increasingly suspicious of you.

I’d rather you didn’t. 
I mean, I’ve said (over and over now) that I don’t know the answer to Aerso's role. It’s something I simply think should be brought up based on strange posts. That’s all. To me, you’re the one making this a huge, huge deal. I mean, it’s funny that you charge I’m making cases up “out of thin air”, when I’ve set forth specific posts and specific reasoning for my thinking? Has everyone or anyone else REALLY done that? Please read through them all, Echo, and then tell me straight faced that most are not doing little more than guessing at this point. I’m at least trying to give specifics for my vote.

If bringing stuff up that seems out of the ordinary to me, and giving specific reasons for a lynch vote (when others don’t or admit they really can’t) makes me suspicious; then, yeah, go ahead and lynch me. That approach will set a new standard no one can meet. Why try to be helpful. You’re better off just setting back and saying “I don’t know”, posting nothing, and watch others get lynched for throwing out ideas and trying to help... Think about it everybody. Just sayin’…..

@ Seer: Please scan me tonight. It’s to everyone’s benefit that my innocence be establish by you, rather than through my lynching.

Unfortunately, I'm off-line for the rest of this phase. Do what you will, but please consider what I've said. Randomain?

[Jin]

Can we get a concentrated vote count since it is so close to the night phase?

[Flemingisa]

Short story
GBaS-4 votes
Barry-3 votes
Everyone else pretty much (minus a few)- 1 Vote

[Deleted]

I'm seeing some interesting ideas building up here, but I'm not sold on anyone particularly just yet, although I'm starting to agree that either Barry, Aersoldorf, or both will turn out to be wolves. Both of them are too good of players to get caught up in a back-and-forth against each other if both are indeed innocent.

[Deleted]

And I forgot to vote. But being the case that I want to see a bit more develop (which it seems like GBAS might be next, which I'm not really sold on him either and just think he's committing new player mistakes. :\) before I decide on the potential next big bandwagon tie, I'll sit this one out.

Vote: Lynch Pengu

[The Candy Lane]

FYI I will be away Thursday to Saturday @3lite

[The Candy Lane]

@elite

[The Candy Lane]

*bangs head on wall* Elite

[The Candy Lane]

Jun 2, 2015 2:09:05 GMT -5 Great Britain & Scotland said:

Jun 2, 2015 1:55:25 GMT -5 Randomain said:

Edit? There's no edit tag on your post, did you delete a post?

Yes. Since editing per se isn't allowed, I had to.

The only thing worse than editing a post is deleting one.

As an aside, I think this is the movie we should watch.
All in favour?

[Elite]

The day phase has now ended.

[Elite]

Flemingisa: O Holy Mayor, we have brought you Great Britain & Scotland to be sentenced to death for the murders of Klopstock and Tierra de Madre.
Elite: Your last attempt at finding a wolf didn't exactly fill me with confidence.
Flemingisa: This is the person that the village agreed on.
Elite: Hmph, alright.

Great Britain & Scotland, a villager, has been hanged.

You guys kinda suck at this, don't you?



A pity, because despite how much I love the Airplane movies, I have decided to pick GB&S' favourite movie, Twilight, to be shown tonight. Popcorn is on me, and make sure you wipe your feet as you come in. Also, please don't get too drunk. That won't exactly boost your chances of surviving the night.

BEGIN NIGHT 2

[Ater Nox]

Sorry Great Britain & Scotland :/

[Louisistan]

*drunk barfs into the Mayor's living room*

[Markanite]

Sorry guys I completely forgot about this!

[Deleted]

*soberly barfs on the mayor's floor at the sight of Twilight*

[Almonaster]

The Candy Lane,you know that's not a real ship, right?

[Aersoldorf]

Jun 3, 2015 6:48:48 GMT -5 Almonaster said:

The Candy Lane,you know that's not a real ship, right?

It's all-American though

[Shy Guy]

Twilight? Can someone please kill me... This movie is bad "amazing"!!!!

[Elite]

Wake up, Werewolf Village!

Aersoldorf and Echolilia, villagers, are both dead!

We lost two people during this night. I told you guys not to get drunk.



Now, after last night's movie I've been artistically inspired. Votes must be submitted in the form of a haiku.

BEGIN DAY 3

Also, does anyone know where Libetarian Republics is? We might have to enter his house at the end of today and check if he's still alive.

[Ater Nox]

LC votes Barry
GBnS votes Barry
Ater votes TCL
Sauron votes GBnS
Jintopia votes Tierra
Louis votes Jintopia
Barry votes No lynch
Almon votes Barry
Shy Guy votes No lynch
Aerso votes LC
Fleming votes LC
Tak votes Pengu
Jintopia changes to LC
Pengu votes Tak
Camp votes Sauron
Echo votes Aerso
Mark votes GBnS
Coreyo votes LC
Tierra votes No Lynch
Fleming changes to No Lynch
GBnS changes to LC
Almon changes to LC
Fleming changes to Coreyo
TCL votes Aerso
LC votes Coreyo
Tierra changes to Coreyo
Ater changes to Coreyo

LC (Defender) is dead.
Tierra is killed by the WWs.

Al votes Hah
Flemingisa votes Hah
Hah votes Tak
TCL votes Random
Ater votes GBnS
GBnS votes Felm
Jintopia votes GBnS
Sauron votes GBnS
Flem votes GBnS
Louis votes Sauron
Louis changes to No Lynch
Shy Guy votes Shy Guy
Aerso votes Hah
Echo votes Barry
Louis votes Louis
Aerso changes to Barry
Barry changes to Aerso
Random votes Barry
Pengu votes Pengu

GBnS (villager) lynched
Aerso (villager) killed
Echo (villager) killed

[The Candy Lane]

The message is clear, we must burn the alcohol if we wish to live!


RIP Aerso and Echo

[Jin]

Louisistan pointed out in the game thread that the rules concerning the Mystic had changed after the game began. Elite did not announce this before Louis made that comment. Therefore I have a feeling that Louis is the Mystic.

My Vote is Louisistan
I see through you
Miniscule louisistan
Refrigerator

[Ater Nox]

Elite mentioned it here: 10000islands.proboards.com/post/1279551/thread

[The Candy Lane]

This seems logical and as I'll be away and unable to change my vote,

I launch my ballot
in haste it is cast upon
Lynch louisistan

[The Candy Lane]

I can't actually find were Louis mentioned that... Also, ninjad by Ater.

[Jin]

I had a child screaming for her bottle, i messed the post up. I meant that Louisistan made a point to talk about it. That is what made me suspicious, it seemed to me that he wanted to clear things up so that he could know everthing about his role

Louisistan's Post

[Ater Nox]

So Aerso and Echo being killed. They are both somewhat obvious choices for any wolves, so I think trying to narrow things down in terms of who would target them won't do much.

Both voted for Barry, and Barry voted for Aerso. If Barry was a WW, he could have been less subtle by changing his avatar to a wolf. Is Barry sneaky enough to try and pull something like this knowing it would be 'too obvious' though? Probably but I don't think it's too likely.

Aerso also voted for Hah, so I would lean towards him being a villager as well as Barry. I'd also lean towards Flem being a villager because I think switching your vote so much brings attention that wolves would want to avoid.

The main people on my suspect list would then be those who have joined bandwagons both times, or not voted perhaps to avoid notice. Jintopia, Sauron, Louis, Shy Guy, Random and Pengu are the active players where I would start I think, the players who didn't vote last phase are also possibilities.

[Almonaster]

Hmm.

As with everything in the game, it may be a red herring, but...

2 people were killed last night. Both of them had voted for Barry. That would be a good reason for either the mystic or a WW to make a defensive kill.

[Sauron]

I definitely feel Barry capable of double bluffing us. It's most certainly likely.

As for the charges against me. We need to lynch people in this game to give the seer a chance to scan at night. That is sadly how this game works. Both days I voted to lynch GB&S, the first time as a random vote. The second, well I definitely called it wrong.

[Louisistan]

Jun 3, 2015 23:41:01 GMT -5 Jin said:

I had a child screaming for her bottle, i messed the post up. I meant that Louisistan made a point to talk about it. That is what made me suspicious, it seemed to me that he wanted to clear things up so that he could know everthing about his role

Louisistan's Post

WTF kind of nonsense are you spouting here?! 

First, you make a factually inaccurate statement, then get caught lying, then cling to your vote with about the most flimsy argument ever! Did you even review the context of my post? You obviously did not! When I made that post, the village was in danger of running down the wrong path, because they were working under the assumption that a person controlled by the mystic would wake up in Town Square. Because no one had woken up there, they assumed the mystic was an inactive player. However, with the changed rules, that Elite had published well before my post, that premise was flawed. The controlled person does not wake up in Town Square and so the whole road we were heading down was a wrong one. To spare us from killing off all the inactive players only to discover that they were villagers, I warned that there had been a rule changed and asked Elite to clarify the rule.

Would you have preferred the rule of the mystic had remained unclear?? My inquiry lead Elite to discover that there was still a mistake in the rules that would have lead us astray for days, if not for the whole game. You should be thanking me instead of attacking me!

And lastly, if that had been my role, I would have PMed Elite for clarification, instead of publicly announcing that the village was working under the old rules If I had indeed been the mystic, it would have been beneficial for me if the village had thought that one of the inactive players was the mystic as it would have driven attention away from me.

You Sir, are completely off track. This has to be one of the most pathetic attempts at forming a bandwagon that I've ever seen.


Now to the Barry situation. I suspect that someone is trying to frame him, but it certainly would be possible for him to double-bluff us. I will consult my morning coffee now, as Jintopia's vile attack has lead me straight from my bed to my computer (luckily, it's a holiday), and think about our situation.