SC Resolution: Repeal: “Commend The Red Fleet”

[Lenlyvit]

Repeal: “Commend The Red Fleet”

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#184

Proposed By: Bormiar

Security Council Resolution #184 “Commend The Red Fleet” shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

The Security Council,

Lauding the noble goal of fighting fascism within NationStates, but recognizing that such a goal does not instantly make a region commendable,

Noting that the Red Fleet is now a decent antifascist region, but the region's commendation is a remnant of a time when the region was plagued by toxicity,

Aggrieved that “Commend the Red Fleet” is a blatant self-commend, as most of the resolution was written by Misley, then the Fleet Admiral of the Red Fleet, who intentionally instructed the “author”, New tuva ssr, not to give credit to them in order to hide the fact that it was a self-commend,

Unimpressed by the operations by the Red Fleet listed in the commendation, as their involvement was heavily exaggerated, for the following reasons:

• While it’s true that the Red Fleet came to the aid of the Internationale, this was merely an act of self-defense, as the Internationale was a recruitment ground for the Red Fleet, and the Internationale later hosted the Red Fleet’s center of communications. The region’s contemporary founder had also been a senior member of the Red Fleet,

• The destruction of Nazi Europe was coordinated by Evil Wolf, the North Pacific Army, Lone Wolves United, and the United Imperial Armed Forces. While their commendation redirects credit to the Red Fleet, the Red Fleet didn't move in until the region had already been captured and secured, making them only a footnote in the operation,

• Leninist Russia was a backwater region which never had more than a handful of nations, so the liberation was hardly as important as the commendation makes it appear. As the Red Fleet reported at the time of the liberation, there was only a “small team” of fascists, making a liberation rather easy. The region ended up being taken in a sleeper operation by Captain Woodhouse,

• The liberation of Anne Frank had participation from almost 30 militaries. The Red Fleet neither organized the operation nor was vital to its success,

Concluding that, while these operations are laudable, “Commend the Red Fleet” implies greater importance and altruism behind the Red Fleet’s actions than that of reality, thus misleading the reader,

Hesitant to commend a region where at least 4 of its major members which built the organization have incurred smiting, often for atrocities committed under the guise of "antifascism". The entire region was also decimated in an act of God and was made impossible to rebuild for a time. Their atrocities were not necessary or helpful to the antifascist movement, and instead embarrassed it,

Deploring the Red Fleet as an organization which has actually weakened the antifascist movements through deplorable actions that encouraged disunity, including attempting to push Asgard, which had assisted in major antifascist operations like Hitler Youth, out of Antifa because of a diplomatic feud,

Disappointed that the Red Fleet has attacked regions innocent of fascism, including anti-fascist regions, simply because of right-wing connections or "witch-hunt" accusations, such as:

• Libertarian, which was raided in a 4 day occupation due to an embassy with a soon-to-be member region of REATO, which the Red Fleet has warred with. Libertarian likely did not know REATO was fascist, as the organization pretended to be anti-fascist, and the Red Fleet did not attempt to inform Libertarian of their innocent embassy mistake,

• Corporate Profit Alliance, which had had an embassy with Antifa prior to being falsely accused of fascism and destroyed by the Red Fleet. The Red Fleet justified their raid by claiming that the word “corporate” meant “fascism”,

Disgusted that the Red Fleet founded Capitalist under the claim that "capitalism is cradle [sic] of Fascism", and had the region's World Factbook Entry endorse the “[suffering]” and “Extremely violent re-education process” for capitalists, graphically describing a “Tormented Poor little Capitalist Crying it's Agony of Horrible Destiny and Eternal Despair”,

Shocked that a major early leader of the Red Fleet, Proletaurus, stated that they did not need to prove that any regions they seized were fascist, and that it didn’t matter whether any regions they ever seized and denounced as fascist truly were fascist,

Attributing these incursions and radical actions to have wrecked much of Antifa’s good public standing and appearance,

Therefore finding extremely insufficient justification from this self-commendation of the Red Fleet,

Hereby repeals SC#184 “Commend the Red Fleet”.

This is the discussion thread. To cast your vote, go HERE

[Free Las Pinas]

I'll be voting in whatever way XKI will, which seems to be For at the moment. I still believe that TRF is worth commending, but the resolution itself is a piece of self-promotion and is a self-commendation, so I'd rather not vote for or against. I'll try to add more info on my choice soon, but I'm a bit busy

*edited something in, then edited it out, because I'm that indecisive.*

[HumanSanity]

I haven't taken a deep dive on this yet but I'm leaning FOR - there's a replacement on the way, Borm has done a whole lot of historical work justifying the resolution, and the repeal and replace combined still highlights and celebrates an anti-fascist region.

[whatermelons]

The replacement isn't sponsored by Bormiar, neither is his repeal sponsored by me, and they aren't dependent on each other, so I'd recommend you all prioritise the merits of the repeal when making your judgment for this proposal instead of my replacement (I note that HumanSanity has done that)

[Free Las Pinas]

I'm a bit more torn on this one than I thought. On one hand, there's a replacement written by Honeydew, which will still celebrate TRF's anti-fascist actions. On the other hand, Honeydew doesn't support this repeal attempt, which leads me to assume Bormiar's spouting nonsense. I was also not around to know who's factually correct, so I'd have to read all four pages of the discussion/drafting thread. Exciting afternoon I'm going to have

[whatermelons]

The destruction of Nazi Europe was coordinated by Evil Wolf, the North Pacific Army, Lone Wolves United, and the United Imperial Armed Forces. While their commendation redirects credit to the Red Fleet, the Red Fleet didn't move in until the region had already been captured and secured, making them only a footnote in the operation,

I feel like this clause alone is discrediting TRF and Antifa, which provided huge pile support. They weren't exactly a footnote.

Deploring the Red Fleet as an organization which has actually weakened the antifascist movements through deplorable actions that encouraged disunity, including attempting to push Asgard, which had assisted in major antifascist operations like Hitler Youth, out of Antifa because of a diplomatic feud,

This is undertstating it a lot. If anything, Asgard is the one who jeopardised Antifa operations, because they were raiding TRF's allied region and I don't see why it was wrong of TRF to be angry. Maybe booting them out was a little extreme, but Asgard were the aggressor here.

Anyways, that's not to say I oppose this in principle, because the target was shoddily written. I may be biased against this because TRF are my allies, so I wouldn't take my full opinion as gospel lol

[Free Las Pinas]

Well, I think I’ve heard enough to vote against. That said, I still support the idea of a repeal-and-replace for “Commend TRF”.