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Post by Hakketomat on Jan 14, 2019 13:22:12 GMT -5
This resolution is pretty much like waving a white flag in the fight against oppression by governments... If debts aren't defined, governments can simply say that they are using "outstanding financial commitments" or anything else other than the word "debt" as a reason for why people can't vote. One can also ask whether this resolution targets mortgages as those also can be seen as debts depending on what language you speak and what country you're in. If the resolution doesn't target mortgages, then governments could use that as a reason for why people can't vote.
If a government has a policy of saying that if you have debts, then the party knows better than you and in which case, you won't be allowed to vote. In that case, debt is not directly linked to ineligibility to vote. It's rather that a government uses layers that prevents a person from voting. Especially if there are various reasons for why the party knows better than you. This resolution doesn't address such cases and there is therefore another loophole.
In short: this resolution is way too short. I am therefore against.
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Post by Hakketomat on Jan 14, 2019 13:37:29 GMT -5
Amendment to my previous post: party knows better than you could mean that the "party" or someone else votes for you. It could be a vote that is registered in your name but it's submitted by someone who may not vote in your interests.
IA used an argument that the WA has passed shorter resolutions. He is really just taking the piss because has has backup and can easily pass just about anything in the WA. This included
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This resolution is pretty much like waving a white flag in the fight against oppression by governments... If debts aren't defined, governments can simply say that they are using "outstanding financial commitments" or anything else other than the word "debt" as a reason for why people can't vote. One can also ask whether this resolution targets mortgages as those also can be seen as debts depending on what language you speak and what country you're in. If the resolution doesn't target mortgages, then governments could use that as a reason for why people can't vote.
If a government has a policy of saying that if you have debts, then the party knows better than you and in which case, you won't be allowed to vote. In that case, debt is not directly linked to ineligibility to vote. It's rather that a government uses layers that prevents a person from voting. Especially if there are various reasons for why the party knows better than you. This resolution doesn't address such cases and there is therefore another loophole.
In short: this resolution is way too short. I am therefore against.
Good points. Not only does this help me understand the opposition to this resolution, it has also swayed me to oppose it.
Post by A Lee Project on Jan 14, 2019 19:48:05 GMT -5
CROMWELL RESPONSE TO CURRENT WORLD ASSEMBLY VOTE:
For all those who have interests in Cromwell/A Lee Project...
I have been informed of the following by virtue of the Cromwell Parliament and the Office of the Consuls....
—————— The Government of Cromwell, through an Act passed by the Cromwell Parliament and receiving Consular Consent through signature, instructs it’s WA nation bloc (A Lee Project) to vote AGAINST this motion.
WA MOTION/PROPOSAL FOR CONSIDERATION: General Assembly Resolution At Vote - Debtor Voting Rights
Primary reason: The motion put forward is too vague and not strong enough for support an enactment. The current wording will have potential judicial conflicts/tests and political issues with WA nations.
Be it resolved by the Parliament of Cromwell...
- The Parliamentary Senate of Cromwell votes AGAINST the current World Assembly Resolution
Motioned by: Jeanna Siddall, MPS for Fermont-Lab West.
Seconded by: Emelia Espinosa, MPS for Quebec Head.
First Reading Passed: 12 January 2019 Second Reading Passed: 12 January 2019 Final Reading Passed: 13 January 2019 Enacted by Consul: 14 January 2019 ——————
I have been instructed to formally request Kuriko WA delegate to vote in similar fashion.
Honourable Benjamin Sisko Ambassador to Nation States The United Republic of Cromwell Cromwell Protectorate A Lee Project
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Post by Jabberwocky on Jan 14, 2019 23:58:15 GMT -5
Add the clause: Unless they owe me. Then all rights should be revoked
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