The Media's Bias

[Jmarjhah]

Okay, since liberals like to wine about Fox News so much, let's take a look at conservative vs. liberal media, shall we?

Major Media Outlets Only

Conservative
Fox News
Talk Radio
Townhall/Weekly Standard
Wall Street Journal (editorial pages only)
The New York Post
hmm.. that's a lot i guess..

Liberal
ABC (The All Barack Channel)
CBS (Central Barack Station)
NBC (National Barack Channel)
CNN (Clinton News Network)
MSNBC (like NBC, but farthest left of all the networks)
The New York Times
The Wall Street Journal (non-editorial pages)
Newsweek (redicuously biased, and I know because they tried to get me to subscribe so they sent me three months free, they don't try to even contain their bias, they are so biased they might as well put SARAH PALIN IS A WH**** on the front cover)
The Washington Post
Time
U.S. News & World Report
National Public Radio (NPR)
The Philadelphia Inquirer
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer
The Atlanta Constitution Journal
The Los Angeles Times

I could go into all the liberal blogs and so forth, but it isn't necessary.

As you can see, the media is predominately liberal.

[Estayland]

Yes, we conservatives like to gripe and moan about the media bias. Yes, liberals like to gripe and complain about the power of Rush. But, we shouldn't try to force everyone to the center. The Fairness Doctrine is anything but. Let people decide if they want news from all sides or be a liberal weiner or right-wing nut job.

[Anime Daisuki]

Dec 16, 2008 15:06:37 GMT -5 Jmarjhah said:

Okay, since liberals like to wine about Fox News so much

Can we be a little more respectful to the liberal members of this region? Offering an opinion about something is not necessarily whining, even if its an opinion you disagree with.

[Jmarjhah]

So now it's time to whine about the use of the word whining?

[Greek People Nation (GPN)]

Dec 16, 2008 16:50:17 GMT -5 Jmarjhah said:

Denied. Whining is whining. I respect liberals, as I agree with them on several positions, and am hardly a hardcore conservative, but they do whine about Fox News.

That is true though. I hear it alot.

[New Dracora]

Hit nerve much?

[Bad Infinitum]

Sure, liberal media outlets may outnumber the conservative ones pretty significantly, but when it comes to net garbage printed it's pretty balanced.

[Jmarjhah]

That's not true: conservatives don't have any place to print garbage.

[Sinn Féin's Ireland]

I always find it funny how American conservatives use the word liberal as a pejorative, and so left wing people have to call themselves 'progressives' because otherwise they're just calling themselves a dirty word.

It's faintly ludicrous.

[Estayland]

Dec 18, 2008 7:27:00 GMT -5 Jmarjhah said:

That's not true: conservatives don't have any place to print garbage.

It's not print, but WorldNetDaily has some right-wing garbage. It lost a lot of credibility with me pushing the Obama birth certificate thing.

[Greek People Nation (GPN)]

If he showed it, it would end it. But since it was hidden, it shows he has something to hide. Perception is everything.

[Jmarjhah]

Lol - don't give me anything about a little website called WorldNetDaily or something questioning Obama. For a year, the preeminant liberal blog in this country, the Daily Kos, had a picture of George W. Bush and Joe Lieberman having sex with each other. And the Democratic senators and leaders post right on this blog! On one side, you have a post by Harry Reid; on the other, Lieberman and Bush getting hot and sweaty. And this isn't just some website like that little website you brought up; this is THE liberal blog. This is obviously disgusting, and it really shows the maturity of left-wing media.

[Greek People Nation (GPN)]

What have you been looking at. I don't want to know. That is your personal choice to watch.

LOL

[New Dracora]

Dec 18, 2008 19:03:23 GMT -5 Jmarjhah said:

Lol - don't give me anything about a little website called WorldNetDaily or something questioning Obama. For a year, the preeminant liberal blog in this country, the Daily Kos, had a picture of George W. Bush and Joe Lieberman having sex with each other. And the Democratic senators and leaders post right on this blog! On one side, you have a post by Harry Reid; on the other, Lieberman and Bush getting hot and sweaty. And this isn't just some website like that little website you brought up; this is THE liberal blog. This is obviously disgusting, and it really shows the maturity of left-wing media.

That's not bias, that's comedy gold.


Yes sir indeedy

[Enigmatic]

Dec 18, 2008 9:32:33 GMT -5 Sinn Féin's Ireland said:

I always find it funny how American conservatives use the word liberal as a pejorative, and so left wing people have to call themselves 'progressives' because otherwise they're just calling themselves a dirty word.

It's faintly ludicrous.

What if we only use pejoratives to describe political parties? I think that could solve a lot of problems.

[MinnaCaroline]

It sounds to me like everyone is whining in this thread. Instead of calling it media's bias it should be called lets whine about which side you're on.

But why do we have to be on sides? I don't understand liberal and conservative at all. Because I seem to not fall into either. and I don't want to be called a center either or a libertarian. Whatever that is.

I mean seriously if you step back and look at everything from another point of view... McCain and Obama preached the same thing, with different wording. LOL! Okay, maybe not all the same thing but very very close so close in fact my husband and I looked at each other several times during the election going ... didn't the other one just say that?

I think it all depends on the point of view

[Jmarjhah]

I definitely don't fit into the definition of any party at all, but the point is that the Democratic Party essentially owns most of America's media. That's like the Soviet Union; state-run media. Over the next two years we will have Soviet-style media: everyone will just endorse what the government's doing. No one will call them out on anything, save for Fox. And don't say, "Well, Fox gave Bush a free pass." We're not talking about one media outlet here. We're talking about nearly the entire American media.

[MinnaCaroline]

I wonder if when they apply for the job its part of the requirement to be a democrat. I can see it now and "and what is your political orientation?" "Oh Republican? Then you need to go next door to Fox."

I think we all need to remember that the news we receive is 1% fact and 99% opinion. Obviously when someone is telling a story they're going to throw their opinion in there no matter how hard they try not to. I think its just the way it is.

I take everything I read and see with a grain of salt.

[eunotopia]

all news shows are biased in one way or another. for example... fox news has carl rove as a contributer, and cnn has all these democratic superdelegates. They don't really hate each other as most of them are owned by time warner.
P.S. what the heck is msnbc?

[Shelter From The Storm]

MSNBC is the only American media outlet I can tolerate. It is a cable news channel that has an editorial bias towards the Democrats. It is a nice counter balance to CNN. My favourite MSNBC commentators are Rachel Maddow, an out-of-the-closet gay woman with a PhD in political history and Keith Olbermann, a brilliant observer of the political scene.

[MinnaCaroline]

I like Rachel Maddow too, she's very funny... and blunt.

[Fleeb]

I don't worry about the bias in the media except where it pretends to be objective.

One of the good things about reading history (say, how the press treated John Adams, or Abe Lincoln) is that you know what kind of wimps we are now. Olbermann almost achieves the sort of blind rabid dog madness of a Democratic-Republican editor sliming John Adams when he gets going about Bush, but he's still far short of the elegance of the early guy's deep, livid hate. We have a ways to go; the only place you can find that right now is in some of the Middle East Arab outlets.

[Jmarjhah]

I'm sorry, did you say just say that MSNBC counters CNN? That you like MSNBC? Here are the facts:

1. both CNN and MSNBC are liberal bastions, just MSNBC is more blatant
2. MSNBC literally has no republicans except fake the two fakers: scarborough and buchanan
3. every other voice on the network is overtly left
4. Keith Olberman, election anchor, called the Republican Party the biggest terrorist orginization in the US. Repbulican newsmen don't do that to democrats, because if they did the liberal media would see to it that their careers ended
5. Keith Olberman blogs on the daily kos
6. keith olberman is overtly left
7. maddow is overtly left
8. chris "thrill up my leg" matthews is overtly left
9. all show-hosts save scarborough are overtly part of the far-left
10. Keith Olberman devotes "special" comments (for his special viewers), a part of his show, to literally just cursing, yelling profanity at, threeatening, and yelling at any republican who annoys him
11. Keith olberman had a segment of his show literally devoted to critizicing Bush for at least a year
12. keith olberman got dan abrams, who was not left-wing enough for him, kicked off the network so that he could replace him with semi-communist rachel maddow
13. the major bosses of MSNBC are overtly left and have donated money almost exclusively to Democrats in recent years
14. MSNBC has so few viewers it is pathetic

MSNBC would make Joseph Goebbels proud.

[New Dracora]

Dec 21, 2008 23:09:17 GMT -5 MinnaCaroline said:

It sounds to me like everyone is whining in this thread. Instead of calling it media's bias it should be called lets whine about which side you're on.

[Bad Infinitum]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Every media outlet sucks. The best you can do is read/watch everything, take the consistent facts, and compile your own news based on what everyone is saying. Of course, even that is going to be biased, so there's no real way to win.

[Shelter From The Storm]

The idea that MSNBC or CNN are 'left' is absurd. MSNBC is certainly pro-Democrat in their editorial line, but you could never convince me that the Democratic Party is a party of the left. Compare it to Canada's NDP, for example and you would quickly come to appreciate that both the Democratic and Republican Parties are pro-capitalist centrist members of the political elites. It is true that the Republicans are right of the Dems, but that does not make the Democrats 'leftists'.

[Anime Daisuki]

Like you said, it depends on where you're coming from.

I was watching Countdown today and Keith kept talking about Bush ... Bush bashing makes up half his program. I think Keith is going to be in trouble when Bush leaves office.

[Noyzistan]

so, what I've learned from this thread; 1) the media is biased (knew that already) and 2) everyone on here is biased too (knew that already).

Now, can we move on to a real discussion?

[Shelter From The Storm]

Jan 9, 2009 2:58:43 GMT -5 Anime Daisuki said:

I think Keith is going to be in trouble when Bush leaves office.

How true! I don't know what Olberman and Maddow will have to complain about once their Saint and Hero Obama is in power. Or will the honeymoon expire and the knives come out?

Of course Keith will still have Billo the Clown to laugh at.

[Noyzistan]

I'd like to know; why are is the media biased? and is it a good or a bad thing?