NationStates2

[Estayland]

I'd like to get everyone's thoughts on NS2. I personally just can't get into it. What about the rest of you?

[Petalumadom]

I log in every week or two to see my GDP grow... but that's about it...

With 90+ worlds and all different alliances and stuff it's just too divided up... it's impossible to reform the communities we have on NS1 there because of the world population caps...

I don't totally hate it... but it's not something I spend my NS time on.

Unfortunately it does steal a lot of those nations who log onto NS every day just to answer issues and never say anything... so we'll see what happens.

[Enigmatic]

I'm not sure what category this puts me in, but I usually forget it exists. I'll remember, log in, check things out, and resolve issues, but as soon as I get done I forget it's there and won't log in for another couple weeks. Maybe if I was able to spend more time with it, I'd be into more. I think Petal is right though, there seems to be a serious lack of community. Community is why I keep playing NS1. If NS2 doesn't have it I won't ever get into it.

[Private Doctors]

I like it..it is a really good idea, they just need to fix out some kinks and i think it will be fine...but there are quite a few to fix xD

[The Colonial Fleet]

People might be interested in the latest news blurb from Nation States:

www.nationstates.net/page=news

I had a dream: we would snuggle close to a professional games development company, and they would deliver a brilliant, shining NationStates sequel while hosting us here for all eternity. But that didn't really work out, so we split.

NationStates is now hosted by me, and doesn't have terribly much to do with NS2 any more. The good news is that means we are free to do what we like here, including adding a few new features.

One thing this experience has taught me is how special the game is. We have something here. And it's due a little love and attention.

by Max Barry

[New Dracora]

Feb 28, 2009 6:08:42 GMT -5 The Colonial Fleet said:

I had a dream: we would snuggle close to a professional games development company, and they would deliver a brilliant, shining NationStates sequel while hosting us here for all eternity. But that didn't really work out, so we split.

Yeah, if I were Max I'd be distancing myself too.

Few good ideas however, game in current form is broken, server is sh.tty and you can't help but wonder if the new development team isn't just trying to make a quick buck. I paid the few dollars to see if it's much worth it - it's not.

They should've finished the game first before trying any of the P2P stuff.

[Land O Canaan]

NS2 is more like a prequal than a sequal I havnt been on it since Jan.

[Ananke II]

I'm kinda like Estayland when it comes to NS2. I'll log in every 2 months or so and then forget all about it. I agree that what the game really miss is the regional communities. All the great people I've gotten to know through Nationstates (and the interesting gameplay politics) is what makes me return to NS again and again. I just haven't been able to find the same kind of vibrant communities in NS2, but maybe I'm just not looking the right places.

Btw. after reading this comment by Scolopendra (games.bbgsite.com/content/2009-03-15/20090315141518699,1.shtml):

If you are a gamer, do not support this company with your pocketbook.

If you are a developer, avoid OMAC like a case of Zaire-strain ebola. They will ignore the contract under the argument that it should be renegotiated... well before even bothering to say that it should be renegotiated. They have no respect for intellectual property rights. They are mostly using throwaway browser-games as a method for acquiring funding to develop Legends of Zork. Do not trust them.

In full disclosure, I remain:

--Scolopendra, NS1 Mod, player since January 2003

I found this email from the NS2 development team pretty amusing:

Hi Everyone

There has been a lot of activity going on behind the scenes at
NationStates2. You�'ll be getting an update in the next week or two with some very interesting news. Big, big changes are coming. Seriously, you'�ll need to hold on to your trousers for this.

In the meantime, we thought you might like to have a look at the new Legends of Zork game we�'ve just launched. It�'s a casual adventure game, and while being quite different from NationStates2, is still rather a lot of fun. If you�'ve a few spare minutes today, have a look atwww.legendsofzork.com

The NS2 team

[oronin]

Don't like it. I'll keep playing version 1, and that's it.

[morlago]

Never tried it, but want to.

[morlago]

But they deleted it, obviously.

[Woaz]

There's a NS2? I just found NS...

[Ananke II]

There was a NS2. It was developed by OMAC/Jolt, but the game really wasn't great. It was full of bugs and some of the features like war didn't work right + it didn't lend itself very well to community building, which is a big part of why people hang around Nationstates year after year. Not to mention that OMAC evidently screwed over Max + pissed off all the NS mods, so NS2 was taken down for 'redevelopement' (or whatever they called it) at the start of July. Supposedly it'll be back, but most people have their doubts.

[Lion Kindom]

Couldn't care less about NS2. Well, yes I do, cos' it kills people off here for that load of rubbish.

(You can all see I loved NS2! )

[-Valoniah-]

I think it had some potential. I liked the trading stats. But I guess we'll never know now.

[Goat Hill]

I haven't heard of NS2

[Grub]

NS2 isn't around anymore.

[Estayland]

#fail

[The Colonial Fleet]

Dec 24, 2009 23:07:37 GMT -5 Estayland said:

#fail

Epic Fail.

[Walabamba]

I thought it was quite bad!

[Ananke II]

Hey, at least the death of NS2 made Max and the admins pay more attention to NS again, so a bit of good did come from the whole thing.