Is Sotomayor racist?

[Anime Daisuki]

This applies mostly to Americans. Is Sonia Sotomayor racist?



Yes/No? Opinions?

[Lion Kindom]

I'd say yes. She certainly seems biased to racism in her court cases. Specially the firefighter case.

[Anime Daisuki]

A related question is: Is affirmative action a form of "reverse racism"?

Should that be abolished, with the election of Barack Obama?

For how long do we need to keep affirmative action around? Another 50 years?

[Chronopolice]

I noticed that the basis of Sotomayor being racist is concentrated on a handful of cases she decided. That is not right. I would review all of the cases she handled and then pin the appropriate label on.

I would say no at this time.

In a functioning democracy, the minority is given the right to be heard. However, they can't impose their will on the majority. Both parties can come to an acceptable compromise though. Affirmative action is one of the products of that compromise.

Is there a resource where we can see a complete list of cases decided by Sotomayor?

[Salinthal]

Yes she is racist. Her decisions and comments favor non-whites.

I do not believe in affirmative action in any way. Why should someone get priority based on skin color? To me that is racist. What matters is grades,references,transcripts, experience, dedication and professionalism. Those requirements are being voided if people are given preference on race.

[Greek People Nation (GPN)]

Jul 15, 2009 16:46:17 GMT -5 Salinthal said:

Yes she is racist. Her decisions and comments favor non-whites.

I do not believe in affirmative action in any way. Why should someone get priority based on skin color? To me that is racist. What matters is grades,references,transcripts, experience, dedication and professionalism. Those requirements are being voided if people are given preference on race.

I agree

[New Dracora]

Jul 15, 2009 16:46:17 GMT -5 Salinthal said:

Yes she is racist. Her decisions and comments favor non-whites.

...She's not white???

[Chronopolice]

Jul 20, 2009 2:02:57 GMT -5 New Dracora said:

Jul 15, 2009 16:46:17 GMT -5 Salinthal said:

Yes she is racist. Her decisions and comments favor non-whites.

...She's not white???

She was caught saying the 'wise Latina' remark. Apparently identifying oneself truthfully is a big no-no in confirmation hearings.

Which brings to mind a certain Governor Sanford... he went to Argentina to 'consult' with his mistress. Not to mention he came this close to dereliction of duty, for the lack of a better phrase. No protests from his colleagues? I didn't know that marital infidelity is accepted among conservative politicians? I was half-expecting that trait to be present among the Democrats.

I don't know why her detractors are making a big deal of it? What do you like her to call herself? Silly politicians.

[Twobagger]

Jul 22, 2009 13:48:22 GMT -5 Chronopolice said:

She was caught saying the 'wise Latina' remark. Apparently identifying oneself truthfully is a big no-no in confirmation hearings.

Which brings to mind a certain Governor Sanford... he went to Argentina to 'consult' with his mistress. Not to mention he came this close to dereliction of duty, for the lack of a better phrase. No protests from his colleagues? I didn't know that marital infidelity is accepted among conservative politicians? I was half-expecting that trait to be present among the Democrats.

I don't know why her detractors are making a big deal of it? What do you like her to call herself? Silly politicians.

What her detractors are pointing at isn't that she referred to herself as a "wise Latina," it's that she said that a Latina would be better equipped to make better court decisions than a white male. I personally don't think that being of any one race makes you better equipped to make good decisions, but being a wise Latina, I'm sure she knows better.

[Anime Daisuki]

It's worth to point out its not just that one incident.

She also ruled to stop the promotion of white firefighters because they had the bad luck of passing a promotional exam black firefighters failed.

-- This kind of "affirmative action" is, in my view, a reverse discrimination. I concur with my colleague Salinthal that promotions and so forth should be based on merit, not skin color.

[New Dracora]

Jul 22, 2009 17:53:10 GMT -5 Twobagger said:

she said that a Latina would be better equipped to make better court decisions than a white male.

She's probably right tbh.

[Chronopolice]

Jul 23, 2009 7:51:02 GMT -5 New Dracora said:

Jul 22, 2009 17:53:10 GMT -5 Twobagger said:

she said that a Latina would be better equipped to make better court decisions than a white male.

She's probably right tbh.

I think I understand what she is getting at. ;D

Since whites and blacks are always at odds over something, why not pick a brown to judge. ;D

[Twobagger]

Jul 23, 2009 7:51:02 GMT -5 New Dracora said:

Jul 22, 2009 17:53:10 GMT -5 Twobagger said:

she said that a Latina would be better equipped to make better court decisions than a white male.

She's probably right tbh.

So, you'd say that being of a certain race (and gender) gives you better judgment?

[New Dracora]

Jul 23, 2009 13:25:23 GMT -5 Twobagger said:

Jul 23, 2009 7:51:02 GMT -5 New Dracora said:

She's probably right tbh.

So, you'd say that being of a certain race (and gender) gives you better judgment?

In many cases no - however, as a white caucasian male of european decent I can say with 110% certainity that white men are more prone to greater levels of stupid than any other race on this planet.

Prove me wrong?

[Adriatic Islands]

She's a racist, and I'm deeply saddened that the Senate approved her. She doesn't know how to be a fair and unbiased judge, and will do nothing but bring shame to the United States and it's constitution. My opinion of course

[Chronopolice]

I'm not an American citizen but I can't really see how she is racist. If she were racist, she would have been in trouble long before Obama picked her as a candidate for the Supreme Court position. If she were racist, I highly doubt she would have lasted long as a judge at all.


I've watched the confirmation proceedings on TV and as a foreign observer sharing the same law traditions as the US, she deserves the confirmation.

[Adriatic Islands]

How do you figure she ISN'T a racist, nearly all her cases seem to be biased against whites and non-hispanics

[New Dracora]

Aug 9, 2009 20:59:45 GMT -5 Adriatic Islands said:

How do you figure she ISN'T a racist, nearly all her cases seem to be biased against whites and non-hispanics

Perhaps if you provided some examples of this alledged racism we might be more sympathic.

[Adriatic Islands]

Aug 9, 2009 22:00:20 GMT -5 New Dracora said:

Aug 9, 2009 20:59:45 GMT -5 Adriatic Islands said:

How do you figure she ISN'T a racist, nearly all her cases seem to be biased against whites and non-hispanics

Perhaps if you provided some examples of this alledged racism we might be more sympathic.

Her speech, the Firefighters incident..... Need I go on?

[New Dracora]

Considering that I'm not american and thus have no idea what you are talking about - yeah, you do.

Links would be a nice start.

[Adriatic Islands]

Aug 11, 2009 0:13:25 GMT -5 New Dracora said:

Considering that I'm not american and thus have no idea what you are talking about - yeah, you do.

Links would be a nice start.

*facepalm*

www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aTJqGYzYmPjE

There's the firefighters one, I'll give you some more in a bit.