This really hasn't had much discussion, at all. However, I was thinking about this in the shower and it struck me how totally wrong the State of California is.
I couldn't find any statistical evidence unfortunately, however, I am very sure that this is a correct statement, so I will make it anyway. If anyone with excellent google abilities could help back me up, it would be appreciated.
The fact of the matter is, that California is a mobocracy. The urban cityscape holds a small majority of the votes and is largely liberal, while the rural areas hold a large minority of the votes and is largely conservative. What happens is that you get wacked out policies on both sides of the state. People like Arnie get elected. When 51% of the state votes for a president and 49% votes against, the huge 55 electoral votes go for the majority and effectively deny the vote of 49% of the population (please don't turn this into an argument against the electoral college, let's just play like it'll be there forever). All of this could be easily remedied if the state were split into a north and south.
The state explicitly goes against the founder's intent. They incredibly, incredibly, despised mobocracy and wanted states to be places where people with common viewpoints could associate with each other (as per Madison in the Federalist Paper #10), not be at each others necks.
I had more to say, but I forgot. I will post more later.
First of all, the California urban/rural divide is actually east/west, not north/south. The coastal rural counties north of SF are actually quite Democratic. San Joaquin Valley, which would (at least partially) be included in Southern California, is quite Republican. Mendocino County and Humboldt County vote around 60% for Democrats (looking at earlier elections as well), but they are the northernmost counties.
A much better divide would be all the coastal counties and the whole Bay Area on state, and all the other counties would be the new state.
why should we be split up because of different views? al ya'll r just jealous cuz ya'll kno Kali iz da bestest state,sidez b dum 2 hav fitty-uno states. ya'll smok da peace pipe n b happy.im outty
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The Constitution of the United States of America Article IV Section 3
"New states may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new state shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states without the consent of the legislatures of the states as well as of the Congress."
Last Edit: Apr 9, 2010 11:55:21 GMT -5 by Enigmatic
The Constitution of the United States of America Article IV Section 3
"New states may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new state shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states without the consent of the legislatures of the states as well as of the Congress."
Then explain West Virginia...
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Area is allowed to be transferred between two states, including the formation of a new state as long as they both consent to it. Or at least that's what I know
First of all, the California urban/rural divide is actually east/west, not north/south. The coastal rural counties north of SF are actually quite Democratic. San Joaquin Valley, which would (at least partially) be included in Southern California, is quite Republican. Mendocino County and Humboldt County vote around 60% for Democrats (looking at earlier elections as well), but they are the northernmost counties.
A much better divide would be all the coastal counties and the whole Bay Area on state, and all the other counties would be the new state.
West Virginia was technically created from a state which was not a part of the Union. Virginia's secession made for a convenient loophole that the pro-Union Virginians could exploit. That doesn't stop me from accusing folks from West Virginia of being unconstitutional, of course. ;D
The law does allow for the creation of a new state out of an existing one, but there's a lot of legal wrangling to be done., as Guy and I said. Short of another bout of secession I can't see California ever being divided.