SC Resolution: Liberate Greece

[Ananke II]

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Liberate Greece
A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region

Category: Liberation
Nominee (region): Greece
Proposed by: Unibotian WA Mission


Description: The Security Council,

Recognizing Greece as one of the oldest surviving regional communities in NationStates and that understanding its relatively complicated history is necessary to fully understand the region's current and dire situation,

Understanding that around August 2009, the two remaining natives of Greece (Grandon and Nikolaos The Great) decided to refound their founderless region to ensure the survival of the community,

Concerned by the fact that a relatively unknown nation, Yauna, happened to refound the region before the native, Nikolaos The Great, which intended to become the new founder of Greece, could,

Taking into consideration that, although Yauna performed its duties to the region's security by eventually repelling invasions, it was a notably inactive nation and even called a “joke” of a founder, by one native,

Reviewing some speculation by natives of Greece that Yauna is secretly allied with a foreign force, the Persian Empire, to protect its status as founder from the natives of Greece who were plotting to refound and commit mutiny against Yauna,

Concluding that, although Yauna made some critical and suspicious administrative decisions (such as permitting delegate access to the regional administration) just leading up to the current recent invasion of Greece by the Persian empire, if Yauna was, in fact, allied with the Persian Empire, Yauna would have been capable of banning and ejecting the natives of Greece without the assistance of the invaders currently holding the region down (and it is therefore unlikely that Yauna is allied with the invaders),

Deeply concerned by the invasion of Greece that was conducted by the Persian Empire on July 30 2010 -- an invasion that used a condemned technique of invading, often referred to as “Password Grabbing,” that was popularized by Macedon and involves an invader delegate imposing a regional password immediately after successfully claiming the position of delegate,

Aware that the founder, Yauna, has not responded to the civil turmoil in Greece because of inactivity, and has since ceased to exist,

Affirming that a counterattack is impossible to conduct in Greece without the removal of the Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry,

Expecting that, without action by the World Assembly, Greece will become another prized possession of the Persian Empire, much like Ctesiphon, Greek Empire, Parthia, Hayk, Aria and Media -- all of which lack the desirable qualities of a region: activity, access and amenities,

Hereby Authorizes a removal of Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry into Greece to aid in the eternal conflict against those who threaten interregional harmony and goodwill.
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Sponsored by the natives of Greece, including but not limited to FlagGrandon and FlagNikolaos The Great.

[Markanite]

Im for this

[Walabamba]

I would say Delegates Prerogative.

[Echolilia]

Is this just infighting between natives? Does anybody know the facts, not the propaganda?

[Ananke II]

AD posted in this thread about it: forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=68832&start=0

[Unibot]

Sept 2, 2010 12:08:56 GMT -5 Echolilia said:

Is this just infighting between natives? Does anybody know the facts, not the propaganda?

I guess I'm sort of the chief propagandist here, but the circumstances are strange. Essentially what was keeping Greece 'safe' for at-least a year, was the fact that two region empires of equal size, ERE and the Persians, both wanted Greece for their own. The Persian Empire finally pulled out the A-bomb of the Invader Arsenal and password grabbed the region, the ERE then pulled out, and left the real natives of Greece, to deal with Persia themselves. Of course they're in a tight position, because their founder is dead, and Persia already has a password in place.

[Cerb]

It sounds like a bit of a soap opera but I'm going to vote for.

[Anime Daisuki]

There's not a lot of natives left. Most of them are puppets from either group.

[ImperialPoland]

for

[Kintobor]

Im for this but it seems like even if this nation is freed it will still be a major battlefield between the two empires with whoevers in Greece as a puppet for either side.

[Takaram]

It's a liberation. I'm pretty much always for those.

[Guy]

For, for two reasons:

1. Name. Country-regions should be free.
2. Natives - sure, not a lot of them, but if it's already reached quorum, then yes.

[Pompadoodle]

For. Its a liberation, so for me its an easy choice.

[Dinarii]

I'm for it on the basis that it's a liberation.
I don't see it doing very much good though.

[Byzesion]

I'm all for this.

[Wordy]

I am voting for

[Woonsocket]

I would say "for" as well

[Osea Island]

I am for it, seeing as it is a liberation.

[MPlowsia]

This is easily a puppet proposal, in the long run Greece will probably be lost to it's natives anyway-- but I'm voting for it because as a new member of 10KI, I don't want to rattle the cage and diversify from the herd. Besides, if my people are all up in arms about the freedoms of others, they aren't worrying about their own. :-D

[Guy]

The natives should be able to reclaim the region.

[The Colonial Fleet]

This is a tough call. While I support the liberation of invaded regions, this one is basically a puppet tug of war region between two invader groups. What we're doing by removing the password protection is basically making it easier for the other invaders to get take it away from the current invaders.

On the other hand, by doing so we tie up the resources of two invader groups, fighting over a puppet prize region, so this isn't a complete waste of a liberation resolution. For.