Grade 1 Course for TK Islandic

[The Brain]

is this your Difertimentu?

[Bellemiatic]

Na, non.

Latin has 5 cases, but why they don't get confused? German has 3 cases like this one as well.

Cases are just awesome. They are easy to understand, as they don't have a really tricky declension like Latin, and they are ultimately easy to memorize. Just believe me, keep the cases, and you can try to mess up with the word order like in Latin.

I really don't think that the cases can affect your understanding of the words.

[The Brain]

What do the cases mean though? It is just confusing, I think that you should Set it up like in English, but have a section for each type of word (nouns, verbs, pronouns, etc.) that way it will be less confusing. At least that is my opinion.

[Bellemiatic]

Nominative is for subject, accusative is for object and nouns after prepositions, genitive is something like a possessive noun (i.e. of the car, of the tree, etc.)

They are way different from pronouns and verbs. You may want to look up in the Internet for "Noun Declension".

btw, I am not a native English speaker.

[The Brain]

That is a better explanation then what the online dictionary's say.

[D-Cup]

Saluto! Ego esago Decupu.

Bellemiatic: Lots of work here so far, constructing a language is a huge undertaking. Good job. In your signature, "Parlod Ilandikut ua To eso so Isulidorot!", shouldn't Ilandikut be Iladikut? Or have I missed an update somewhere?

[Bellemiatic]

Oops, you just found a typo.

Saluto! Ego esago Bellemiaticu. Bono prasentago Tot.

This is what make the language fun, you can form a verb out of a noun, for instance, from Prasento (meeting), I derive Prasentago (to meet), feel free to suggest new words.

[D-Cup]

Thanks.

Would "D-Cup is a new nation" be:

Decupu eso natio nofo

(Adjective follows and agrees with the noun it modifies, and nothing takes the -t ending here as there is no object.)

[Paffnia]

Oct 21, 2011 11:08:41 GMT -5 D-Cup said:

Would "D-Cup is a new nation" be:

Decupu eso natio nofo

"Dekupu Natio nofo eso."--that's probably best (nouns are capitalized; no "c" in Islandic).

[Bellemiatic]

Hmm.... I guess it should be something like this:

Dekupu eso Natiot nofot / Dekupu Natiot nofot eso.

Note that the Accusative form is used whenever it is behind a verb, for instance, 'eso' is the verb and 'Natio nofo' is the object of the sentence.

For some reference, you may look up German or Latin grammar.

P.S: Both Pafniu and Dekupu 's sentence structures are acceptable, 'cause the noun forms (cases) have specified where the nouns should be placed. You can even do something like this:

Natiot nofot eso Dekupu.

Because of the cases, you are able to understand where the words should be placed even they are in reversed order.

Just be careful of you cases, otherwise the sentence will have different structure!

[D-Cup]

Oct 21, 2011 19:57:57 GMT -5 Bellemiatic said:

P.S: Both Pafniu and Dekupu 's sentence structures are acceptable, 'cause the noun forms (cases) have specified where the nouns should be placed.

Thanks to both of you for your help! My Esperanto background both helps me and led me astray. I'm used to fairly flexible word orders as a result of case-marking, but not used to marking the accusative when the verb is a form of "to be".

Every language is different. Linguistics is fun, even on a dabbler's level.

[Bellemiatic]

Yeah, linguistic is just awesome.

[Bellemiatic]

Hey, guys! Sorry for the long silence.

I guess most of you may have a brief knowledge about Ilandikut, right? So, here comes a challenge.

For the first one who can translate this pure Ilandikut passage and able to tell what's the original version is will have a special award.

If you have words don't know, just ask here!

--Kaptu So--
Korido longo Castellos Calarmitiu esok fuotot es Asliu, Semu ua Kregu piedok sfiftumeto bas dsu Finalo lontano Igos, Futstego Igost ekogs su Murogt Stenos. Igog esok Keul dilevago Notisogt ke Patrono afok eson attendogs für, ke Tono anotero afok otomnon dsu Armeot Igogs. Büro Patronos esok kloson, ma kuest esok Nit-Tingenot nofot. Asliu pusok aperirago Portot ua luodok Bi otere en.
“Iugenu,” Asliu dikok, “Tono petito en Deseto afo eson klemon.”
“Tre bono,” esok Respondo fromo Scatogt a Finalot oterot Kameros. Asliu skuitok ardo en Scatogt. Kuel esok Igot? Igo Igot tinkok dsu kuand Igo vidok Movogt deogt.
“Lokog Fotrot donnok qualsiasi Problemogt?” Iugenu demandok, Koson felumeto par Sombrnot.
“Igog triok lottago surüko, ma Notro surpassok-en-Numere Igogt. Igog debutok same so Sansot,” Semu respondok.
“Ego elatok okilago,” Kregu dikok, puakonogs Pugnot Igos en Manot oterot Igos. Kregu esok fakilumeto plupar alto en Kamerot, debutogs a so Ek Futogt So-Dise potentot ua gefiktogs a esterio Bi-Kent Libbregt. Kuest Omo pötok desirago Tri Librugt Telefonos en metso… ua afo.
“Süro To kanok,“ Iugenu dikok, en so Tonalitut patrokinogs plütot.
“Kirio, To afo qualsiasi Konkuistogt oterogt en Mentet?“ Asliu erkunidigok, desideroso skirago cosa Patrono Igos afok planifion prossimot.

[Bellemiatic]

Com'n, need someone to translate this piece.