New Parthini

[Grub (Lenlyvit)]

The nations of Fleeb & New Parthini are related to each other. Over Thanksgiving, they were both ejected when they were using the same computer. They were re-instated the next day at that time. My guess is that the same thing has happened again.

For the meantime, I have turned off the delegate controls until this is resolved.

Sincerely,
The United States of Grub
Founder - 10000 Islands

[LoreSong]

I think they HAVE to make arrangements NOT to use the same computer ever. I don't care what it takes but being without a UN Deligate is IMO unacceptable. More mundanely there are going to be only so many times when the moderators will fix this for them.

[Grub (Lenlyvit)]

That is true.

[Parthini]

Yeah. It's true but we never used the same computer . Oh well.

ASNP

[Fleeb]

Interestingly enough, we did use separate computers, one a laptop on dial-up and one a desktop on cable. So the IP cannot have been the same. We have not heard as yet what the problem was as presented.

Thank you for your patience and support.

[kokablel]

Odd. That's just ... odd. Let us know what happens you two. ^^, sorry about all that.

[aleeproject]

I believe the Delegate Position should be fixed immedietly..it is already been 24 hours, and the confusion has hit a peak: Loresong is the Deleagte by endorsements, although our region still recognizes the past/recent New Parthini...

Is LoreSong a "Delegate Pro-Temp?"

I believe if this is not fixed by Monday, then perhaps a Bi-election or the established title of "Pro-Temp" should be announced!!

[Parthini]

For now I will declare LoreSong the Temporary United Nations Delegate of 10000 Islands. I trust her but I hope Grub will keep delegate controls off in case of attack.

The moderators have not responded to either Fleeb nor my telegrams with anything but silence. If the situation is not resolved by Friday night I will declare a new election to select a new delegate. Hopefully this will not be the case.

Sincerely,
ASNP

[aleeproject]

I would like to point out the treamendous*sp* leadership New Parthini is showing in the hand-off of
"Delegate - Pro-Temp".

This type of issue will prove the loyalty to the nations of 10000 Islands, from New Parthini..

Bravo *shakes the rep of New Parthini and the
'Delegate-Pro-Temp'

[MisterPlow]

A said:

This type of issue will prove the loyalty to the nations of 10000 Islands, from New Parthini..

Mr Plow concurs...and will endorse LoreSong for security purposes until such a time when New Parthini is once again able to officially accept our support.

[Alfonia]

I am sad to say that you can't hope that this will be solved soon, New Parthini. The very same thing happened to me and a close relative of mine before christmas, and the moderators still haven't responded.

[Odracir]

Is New Parthini still a member of the Council of Nine? Currently, he doesn't hold any of the nine positions that make a member nation a member of the Council. Also, if he is not allowed back in the UN for whatever reason, LoreSong has to step down either from Minister of Immigration or from UN delegate. Grub has stated that one person can not hold more than one Council Seat. It gives that peron way too much power in the region.

[LoreSong]

I have no issue with stepping down from one or the other when that time arises. Grub just put me in place because at the moment I had the most endorsements (I didn't even know about it till I signed in this morning LOL).

In any case it's hopefully a situation that will be resolved. I would try two routs - not just the help approach but also the forums where you can get replies from the moderators (sometimes that gets faster results)

[Grub (Lenlyvit)]

One way or another things will start to be cleared up in the next few days.

[aleeproject]

Odracir wrote:

LoreSong has to step down either from Minister of Immigration or from UN delegate. Grub has stated that one person can not hold more than one Council Seat. It gives that peron way too much power in the region.

ALP agrees with Odracir. Since the UN Delegate has been passed down in succession to LoreSong. The honourable nation must step down of either position until the Delegate position is fixed. We can't see any reason why LoreSong would not be able to return to a position the nation resigns from?

[Grub (Lenlyvit)]

There is no need for that. LoreSong will continue on as Minister of Immigration, and the delegate situation will finally be solved very soon.

[aleeproject]

For the record: ALP has no problem with LongSore.

However, if the Pro-Temp Delegate continues to hold both positions, then their is a contradiction here.

[Grub (Lenlyvit)]

LoreSong will continue on as the temporary delegate for a few more days before things return to normal.

[LoreSong]

if it makes everyone more comfortable I can hold off on voting on the current resolution - I think we have plenty of time, and that way if Parthini is back in action before it closes he can cast our regional vote.

I promise not to use the UN position for anything - as honestly I'm too busy recruiting new nations.

[Grub (Lenlyvit)]

Until Parthini is back, feel free to vote how you see fit.

[aleeproject]

Again, ALP has no problem with the Honourable Delegate Pro-Temp,

However, why is it okay to contradict a statement??

[LoreSong]

I believe that because the controls are turned off (meaning I can't really do anything than look pretty - LOL) is why Grub has chosen some flexibility here. This situation left him seeking the Nation with the most endorsements so our UN position wouldn't be hampered (let alone the possibility for invasion during times of duress). Additionally, I am not occupying two PERMINANT positions (nor would I want to - eek! too much work!!). I basically think of myself as keeping someone's seat warm (smile).

Also realistically the IM has very little power regionally -other than bringing new nations here (which benefits us all) Even now I'm at about half of the endorsements NP had before the problems occurred, and once NP (or someone) is back in power I'll be asking several people to remove their endorsements so I don't break with our constitution.

[Parthini]

Why is there all this commotion? It is but Tuesday night? I have my nation ressurected and rolling. If by Friday night Parthini is not in the UN then I say let the elections begin. Until then everyone must be pacient *sp*. I applied for UN status this morning and I should get word then.

GPP

[LoreSong]

I think the key for you two is to NOT dial in using the same ISP in the future. Two different computers doesn't seem to do it - you need two different phone lines (that's what we do here for myself and my husband). Otherwise in a few months we'll be without you again.

[aleeproject]

That, or be on a LAN that have seperate IP accounts
(ie - DSL or Cable Internet)

[Fleeb]

Ladies and Gentlemen, my point about this for all the world to hear is that we were on two different computers with two totally separate and different modes of internet connection--one a RoadRunner cable, one a dial-up through AOL. Check out the various IP addresses you will find littered through this discussion board and you will see that we are never on the same IP address. (If you have an IP address identifier you will also see that for 10 months of the year Parthini is 400 miles RW away from Fleeb--maybe we should show that on the map of 10KI. So clearly, the mods believe in bi-location.)

So don't kid yourself, the system ain't perfect and sometimes you will be chewed up. Do the best you can, but I'm not confident any more that 2 separate phone lines (or any other such strategem) will keep you safe. Play on!

[Odracir]

LoreSong said:

Also realistically the IM has very little power regionally

It's not the fact that the IM is as powerful as the delegate regionally, it's the fact that you would have two votes in the Council of Nine.

[Parthini]

Well my silly school account considered the acceptance e-mail spam. I change addresses and should get the e-mail tonite or tommorow morning. If I do not make a statement by 1700 CST tommorow go ahead with the elections.

GPP

[LoreSong]

oh DOH - but if that's a worry I can't vote as deligate because it's not perminant.

[Grub (Lenlyvit)]

LoreSong, you can vote until Parthini is back.