A New Law?

[Izdambodia]

Are there any laws in 10000 Islands besides the Constitution because after the leaving of The SouthEast I believe we should ban endorsement begging on the Forums and excessive spam from people who want to be endorsed. I mean if you have a reasonable reason (not just, "I endorsed you, so you should endorsed me" or "I just came back so endorse me again") then that would be ok but excessive beggining is kinda... getting... annoying. It's just a suggestion but after the second largest nation left... this should be considered.

[Fleeb]

The Senate, when it is fully constituted after the elections are over 1/20/04, could consider such a statute. I don't think this is a constitutional issue, myself, and final say about ejection rests with Grub. On the whole, the fewer laws the better, IMHO. (But yes, endo-scrounging is a nuisance.)

[Jamzland]

I don't see whats wrong with asking once for your endorsements back when you have been on a TITO mission. Excessive posting does become annoying but who decides what is excessive more than 2 or 5?

[Grub (Lenlyvit)]

I think one or two messages is ok after you get back from a mission, but anything more than that (especially if others are doing it at the same time) can be annoying to others.

Also, remeber that endorsements are nice and all, but that's not what this region is about.

USG

[TheNorthernIsles]

People want their endorsements back, they had them before they left for the mission. they served TITO and it's not like it's a hard thing to do.
(could I have my endorsements back please)

[Boktavia II]

I made one post after coming back, not begging for more endorsements, but just politely asking for those who had previously endorsed me to give them back. I think that one, maybe two, posts on the board after a TITO mission is fine, but after that it could get to the begging/spamming point. I took Klington's advice and wrote down all my endorsements, so now, I can politely telegram those people on the list instead of taking up room on the board. That seems like a pretty good idea to me, but do people think that doing that could be annoying in its own way, too?

[Jamzland]

I kept a list of my endorsements and just posted one message saying theses nations had endorsed me........... can I have them back please. Is that so bad?

[orangekarma]

I think that Grub is very right...this region isn't about endorsements and it certainly means little as far as I am concerned. If endorsements are just given freely...then are they endorsements? I give my endorsements out to nations I feel uphold similiar beliefs and rights as I do, and I do not expect that reasoning from everyone, but I do feel this is what the endorsement system was created for. When you give out an endorsement it should be like your National Seal given to nations with whom you feel a brotherhood and comradary. By giving freely and asking for them to be given to you freely, it cheapens the meaning of them considerably.

Before the training mission I had 86 endorsements because of the UN delegate campaign, I did not make a list nor do I expect all who endorsed me to do so again. But I do hope those that think like I do in many respect will show their spirit and national support.

R

[Boktavia II]

I realize now that Grub and orange karma are right. I have already put my one post up about it, but I will not telegram anyone and will just let those who still want to endorse me do so.

[Izdambodia]

Yes, I agree with everyone's comments, but this is just like a tiny proposal because it seems to me, the newcomer, that somehow just certain nations are getting tired of this whole endorsement issue. One nation has left already and others might follow, especially non-UN nations. Just a concern, but yea, personally I don't even ask for endorsements, I just go aroudn with no life and endorse everyone I see. My previous nation, because we were all in the same school, we just begged each other FOR FUN lol.

[Fleeb]

Wouldn't it solve the problem if folks who want endorsements (especially on the way back from a TITO exercise) just TM the guys they want to request an endo from directly, keeping it off the message board? Doesn't take more than 5 minutes of cutting and pasting.

[TheSensitiveNewAge]

To submit UN proposals, you need at least two endorsements. Otherwise the only need for endorsements is to become the Delegate and the election for that is not going to be for a while. Just two things to keep in mind.

[Parthini]

Most people have been saying that endorsements should be considered, and I fully agree...except I'm the delegate . I will endorse mpst, if not all, new UN nations that come because, as the voice of the 10000 Islands in the UN, I need endorsements from the people so our words have more sway in the UN. If I was not delegate I would be doing the same as Orange Karma and others do.

On the Law, I believe that we should make a forum for where the laws are listed, like how Hammurabi, king of Babylon, did. That way, all of the minor laws could be seen.

ASNP

[kaltania]

While I agree with New Parthini that any laws should be made public, isn't that kind of the point of the constitution? Any newly ratified laws should be added to the constitution as an ammendment.

And on a side note, if our laws are anywhere near as barbaric as Hammurabi's, we'll be losing far more regions who will publicly decry the injustices of this region then we already are.

[Parthini]

Hehe. That is true. I don't think that we should chop off someone's hand for flaming....

However, that was just an example that I could think up.
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I disagree. We should not edit the constitution every time a law is made. The constitution should be only edited during certain important times, like the USA constitution. Minor laws such as the formation of parties, etc. should be placed in a different section.

[Thorn]

G'day all

Why not simply create a strand on the TITO part of this site for those coming back from battle or recon missions to ask for re-endorsment. I know that not all that endorse use this site but this is one way to strengthen 10k Is by encouraging its members to use the 10k Is HQ.

In fact any ideas that encourage the use of 10k Is HQ can only strengthen our region. Maybe.

Cheers
Thorn of the Washing Machines